Aatrox could use a better 1st item, here is an idea

DonnieDarkin··3 votes·856 views

Soulfire Edge (rapier and gauche)

50% Attack Speed 200 Health 20 Armor 20% CDR 7% Movement Speed

Passive: Windspeakers Favor--10% increase on self healing

Would you buy an item like this for Aatrox if it existed?

Obviously this would be a high priced item, close to trinity force maybe

26 Comments

GULAG 4 U4 votes

That's preeeeeetty fucking broken lol.

DonnieDarkin1 votes

Haha what and Trinity Force isnt over the top on champions that can spam its spell blade and great use out of every stat?

Void Consumed1 votes

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Haha what and Trinity Force isnt over the top on champions that can spam its spell blade and great use out of every stat?

It's roughly around 4000G and over all the stats are on the low side though.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Maybe trinity force is pretty broken? And your item would need to cost like 4000 gold or so.

LyingOnLine3 votes

"Make an item only one character would ever build lol"

and that's why i don't go to aatrox players for insight into game design

Slave Knight2 votes

I play Aatrox too, but it's not all of us doing this... just a 'few' outspoken individuals :^)

Edit: This item is overloaded.

DonnieDarkin1 votes

Obviously the stats could be adjusted. What Trinity Force is not overloaded?

Slave Knight1 votes

It is pretty overloaded if you ask me. So then why are you trying to make another overloaded item? Also like others have said, you shouldn't make an item for only one specific champion in mind. That's how abuse cases happen when champions not designed for things suddenly realise that they can better utilise the item than the intended champion(s) for example, Runeglaive Ezreal.

If anything, League is literally built off of generic cover the base items and specialist items. It's plain, it's boring but that's how it works in LoL. If this game was more Dota 2 like, we might be able to see good item variety. Having too much of a generalist item where stats tend to rule doesn't seem like too good of an idea.

DonnieDarkin1 votes

Yeah because Riot really nails it, right? Like when they left tank ekko in a broken ass state for like..what? 6 months? Or all the champions they nerfed into oblivion? Or the fact that the same champions are repeatedly picked and banned. Yup, GREAT game design. 128 champions, feels like 20 to choose from.

Meanwhile xin and others get the max benefit from items like item 3078, but heaven forbid there as an item that gave Aatrox more of what he needed

LyingOnLine1 votes

item 3153.

Aatrox's problem right now is that he's undertuned. Not that he needs some magical item ginned up just for him and him alone.

Paroe2 votes

Thats WAY to many stats on a single item.

If anything, you want a buffed version of zephyr that builds out of a BF sword and a stinger...

DonnieDarkin1 votes

Is it though?Trinity Force exists. There is no AD, lifesteal, or spellblade or armor reduction. So it is VERY lacking in some respects.

And yes I do want a buffed version of Zephyr but Riot deleted, so clearly they don't want it.

Void Consumed2 votes

Since you're not fairly good with Aatrox it seems, especially with op.gg pointing out your win rate is roughly 45%, I'm gonna give you a small guide. Do what ever you wish with it.

item 3153 item 3143 item 3065 item 3072 item 3053 item 3047

https://gyazo.com/4094af8826e984615ba8c3bbad792c9a

3 Life Steal Quints AS Marks Armor Seals Scaling MR Glyphs

Go nuts.

DonnieDarkin1 votes

Dude Ive played like 15 games with him in ranked on this account. Its ROUGH relearning when you are used to toggling blood thirst and blood price a certain way with the old Aatrox. Furthermore, my placements gave me 2 akfs and 2 total trolls. It wasn't a good start

Also, unless I am asking for your god damn advice on a post, dont offer it up. No one likes unsolicited advice. That is a pretty hard rule in life dude. But since you are probably some unsocialized nerd with no concept of how to interact with others, you wouldn't know that

Void Consumed1 votes

350 HP 50 Armor 10% CDR

Unique Passive - Increase in self healing.

or

500 HP 50 Armor 15% Attack Speed

Unique Passive - Increase in self healing.

A bit more balanced.

DonnieDarkin1 votes

worthless for Aatrox without Attack Speed

50% attack speed 30 Armor 10% CDR 5% MS

Passive--increase self healing

Void Consumed1 votes

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worthless for Aatrox without Attack Speed

There are other items that can give attack speed. At the moment what he really lacks is a defensive item that he can build that fits his kit. Bork, added in with some AS Marks and his passive will give you a decent amount of attack speed. If you really want the attack speed. The potential item I listed; swap the 5% ms for AS and that'd be balanced.

DonnieDarkin1 votes

Actually item 3046 item 3022 item 3071 gives him pretty good defense

Void Consumed1 votes

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Actually item 3046 item 3022 item 3071 gives him pretty good defense

You're not supposed to build full damage on Aatrox.

DonnieDarkin1 votes

That is not full damage. its 1100 bonus Health with 2 items left for defense. Furthermore, the damage reduction from phantom dancer is significant.

Ahegao Bunny1 votes

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You're not supposed to build full damage on Aatrox.

You build whatever is best... lol. Defensive Aatrox is crap and thats why the changes are crap. They nerfed the builds which worked and buffed the builds which doesnt work.

FTWolf1 votes

See the problem here isnt that Aatrox would be the only one building this, imagine a yasuo building this against you, where he already has a pd and maybe a tabis. that doesnt sound too fun to play against.

DonnieDarkin1 votes

He wont benefit from it as much as Aatrox will. It doesnt give crits, and 10% self healing is pretty substantial on Aatrox

qqpp1 votes

Maybe something like this because of Warwick Olaf Nasus and Darius.

50% Attack Speed 300 Health 10% CDR 5% MS

Windspeakers Favor- 10% increase on self healing.

DonnieDarkin1 votes

I like that too

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