Riot still manages to buff Yasuo indirectly

DonnieDarkin·Apr 10, 2017·40 votes·2,562 views

New is going to be abused on him with less counter build due to no crit reduction on

At his point I think is pathological with Riot and their pet favorite champions.

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BALDG1VEN BOOMERApr 10, 201711 votes

Before anyone makes anymore thread regarding GA, note they explicitly in big bold capital letters wrote "EXPERIMENTAL", which clearly means these changes aren't final.

Until they decide to go through with it or revert it can we all just chill the fuck out

DonnieDarkinApr 10, 201714 votes

It most likely will go through. Aatrox changes went through despite PBE feedback saying he was weak, and they made the change and had to buff him what..3 times now? 4 coming up next patch?

Riot just pushes shit through and then runs damage control after. Thats how they roll.

BALDG1VEN BOOMERApr 10, 20176 votes

Even so the boards has a tendency to go ape shit on changes they never play tested. Remember when people thought plants were too RNG based that they'll ruin League?

DonnieDarkinApr 10, 201714 votes

Well, I still don't like plants. I think they were entirely unnecessary, and the biggest beneficiaries of plants are junglers that don't have an ability to easily pass through a wall. Plants give them a function they never had before, and the benefit to those with a dash or jump is much less, as usually only one jump over a wall is needed to escape.

KeevalroyApr 10, 20172 votes

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DonnieDarkinApr 10, 20171 votes

Yes, but I think I made it clear that the benefit from 0 to 1 wall clearing ability is much bigger than 1 to 2 abilities.

KeevalroyApr 10, 20171 votes

Woops, still too early. Had to re-read that. You're right.

DonnieDarkinApr 10, 20171 votes

I just feel like thost plants were Riots way of throwing a bone to Junglers who dont have jumps or dashes to get through walls. But I think its the wrong approach. That weakness in their kit should remain, and they should be made to do what they do better instead of trying to give them extra functionality that is beyond their kit.

Troll for TrumpApr 10, 201710 votes

They ARE too RNG based and they don't really do anything special.

They're supposed to add complexity and they aren't really pulling the job off.

EnloctApr 10, 201719 votes

Plants are horrible. They just aren't impactful very often. However, every time they _are _ impactful, its bullshit.

KeevalroyApr 10, 20174 votes

I could tolerate honeyfruit, but scryer's bloom and especially blast cone need to go. Riot only likes the vision plant because it was an excuse to continue on with their anti-vision crusade, and further reduce the amount of wards that can be on the map, and they love blast cone because it adds just enough mobility creep to be negligible while still providing #LC$BIGPLAY$ when they're used to make a fla$hy escape or disengage. Anything to keep the ADHD CoD kids entertained right?

LF AnnieApr 10, 20174 votes

eventually this will be their undoing, being that some actions are too damaging to correct.

KeevalroyApr 10, 20173 votes

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eventually this will be their undoing, being that some actions are too damaging to correct.

Cough! Keystones. Cough!

RainXBladeApr 11, 20171 votes

"Thunderlord's Decree was a mistake." "Fervor of Battle was a mistake."

"Courage of the Colossus was a mistake."

ZT XperimentorApr 10, 20172 votes

Oh really? Tell that to sona, mordekaiser, cassiopiea, malzahar, and skarner.

WoonStruckApr 10, 20172 votes

It must be nice being so naive...

Ignorance is bliss, they say.

This is Riot we're talking about.

yay nibbersApr 10, 20179 votes

Yasuo already often enough builds GA fifth or sixth item. And no, it's not likely going to be built any sooner than that even after the EXPERIEMENTAL changes (if it even goes through) because the new GA's stats are laughable for the price you pay for them. There's much better AD items to buy before that, such as Bloodthirster or Frozen Mallet.

Lets also conveniently forget the increased armor on the various armor items and buffs to their other item effects. I also highly doubt anyone who isn't a tank even build Randuin's, and tanks have always been less scared of Yasuo for obvious reasons even before Randuin's had the crit reduction effect.

Spicy RiceApr 10, 20171 votes

Most yasuo mains I know of don't even build GA unless they are getting instagibbed.

ZT XperimentorApr 10, 20172 votes

Why build randuin's omen anymore? They removed it's critical reduction.

yay nibbersApr 10, 20173 votes

Because it'll be 300 gold cheaper than the other armor/hp items for the same stats? It still has the attackspeed reduction passive (this still hurts Yasuo's damage) and slow active by the way, but I guess those don't directly affect Yasuo's crits so who cares about those right?

ZT XperimentorApr 11, 20171 votes

Rather it be more expensive and worth buying. Just going frozen heart & warmogs.

AMYS GRAVEApr 10, 20172 votes

because the new GA's stats are laughable for the price you pay for them.

Old GA's stats were laughable for the price too, didn't deter people much.

yay nibbersApr 10, 20171 votes

Yeah because the draw of the item is the revive passive. Giving it pitiful AD in place of MR doesn't change that, all it does is make it feel slightly better to build on AD champions (ADCs, Yasuo, etc) who are already its primary users. This isn't some big thing to freak out about, things will barely change because it's still a subpar item stat-wise only at all valuable for its passive.

AMYS GRAVEApr 10, 20171 votes

yeah, it doesn't change much for AD users (you still get a stat inefficient item for the passive) but it removes it as a use for tanks and AP champs.

yay nibbersApr 10, 20171 votes

How is the revive passive not still usable by tanks and AP champs? Last I saw they didn't change the passive to only revive AD champs. A lot of tanks I know can still make use of the AD, and squishies (this includes AP champs) never bought it for the MR in the first place. The passive will still be the main draw of the item, I highly doubt whatever tanks and AP champs bought it before will just suddenly stop buying it now just because it has a tiny bit of AD.

Besides that, neither of those groups bought it much in the first place. Tanks are tanks and generally don't need a second life at the cost of an item slot that could be better spent on one of the many far superior tank items. AP champions have Zhonya's, an actually good defensive AP item.

AMYS GRAVEApr 10, 20171 votes

Well they can still build it, but they won't get good use of the AD, it would be like an ADC building protobelt for the dash, they just wouldn't make good use of the stats. In any case we'll see how it pans out.

PermabannedGarenApr 10, 20179 votes

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New is going to be abused on him with less counter build due to no crit reduction on

At his point I think is pathological with Riot and their pet favorite champions.

New GA is frankly worse on Yasuo than the old one. He already does a lot of damage. GA gave him some needed survivability, but now it is losing all of its MR (on a champion with low scaling MR) and 30 of its armour.

ninjaroxasApr 10, 20171 votes

Actually im pretty sure they are giveing him more MR

AhristocatsApr 10, 20175 votes

Yes

9 mr at lvl 18

Sun Wu RyuumokuApr 10, 20173 votes

9 Oo so broken [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

PetraneseApr 10, 20171 votes

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9 Oo so broken [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

9 garanteed MR? Yes, its actually huge. 9 MR is 9% increase in EHP

AhristocatsApr 10, 20172 votes

if you have 30 base mr that's a 5% increase of hp

if you have mr runes and end up at 42 it becomes nothing

PetraneseApr 10, 20172 votes

Dude what? How did you calculate these numbers? You're completely wrong...

30 MR is 23,07% damage reduction. If you want to be as durable with just HP, you need 130% of your normal amount (thus, 1 MR equals to 1% EHP).

9 MR is huge. When you get 9 MR, your enemy has to get 9% more damage to deal as much damage as he did before. This is really high amount...

AhristocatsApr 10, 20171 votes

30 mr is 23% damage reduction, 39 mr is 28% damage reduction

wtf is hard to understand?

No More CagesApr 10, 20171 votes

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Magic_resistance Quoted straight from the wiki that actively keeps itself up to date and does very thorough math on these things: "Every point of magic resistance requires a unit to take 1% more of its maximum health in magic damage to be killed. This is called "effective health".

Example: A unit with 60 magic resistance has 160% of its maximum health in its effective health, so if the unit has 1000 maximum health, it will take 1600 magic damage to kill it.

What this means: by definition, magic resistance does not have diminishing returns, because each point increases the unit's effective health against magic damage by 1% of its current actual health value whether the unit has 10 magic resistance or 1000 magic resistance. "

PetraneseApr 10, 20171 votes

Difference between 23% damage reduction and 28% damage reduction is DEFINITELY not 5% when it comes to EHP.

Also, i like how you are downvoting every my post because you can't grasp basic mechanics...

PermabannedGarenApr 10, 20171 votes

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Actually im pretty sure they are giveing him more MR

They are, but not as much as other melee champions. He will have 39 at level 18. Others have, IIRC, 52.

EnlegacyApr 10, 20173 votes

I think Yasuo as a champion is just able to do so much whenever they touch a class they end up helping him. He builds ADC items, some tank items, bruiser stuff. The only classes they can work with without directly affecting Yasuo are supports and mages.

SirΤeemοApr 10, 20173 votes

why people say that ONLY YASUO will get this item? what about vayne? fiora? lee sin? ...

AhristocatsApr 10, 20172 votes

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chipndip1Apr 10, 20174 votes

I'm waiting for it to go back to Ahri or Fiora.

AhristocatsApr 10, 20172 votes

nvm, you can't argue with those people

just move on

EvilUnicornLordApr 10, 20171 votes

Maybe all the nerfs were to prepare Yasuo for those changes so they could indirectly buff ADCs without buffing him much?

Sexy Jack RabbitApr 10, 20173 votes

He's getting a new skin. Gotta get him ready for the sales bby

Serika ZeroApr 10, 20171 votes

I'm considering becoming a yasuo main

Spicy RiceApr 10, 20171 votes

if you arent memeing, id suggest going to r/yasuomains to get good advice

Serika ZeroApr 10, 20171 votes

0.0 wait, there's reddit subthreads for each champion and their mains? i might check that out of curiosity, tho, I like to practice something like 50 times or so to learn it myself

and someone downvoted me, the simple idea of another yasuo main made them salty looooool

Spicy RiceApr 10, 20171 votes

I'd highly suggest going to it if you need any advice or starter tips

DonnieDarkinApr 10, 20175 votes

While you are at it why don't you become a human sex trafficker? I mean if you are going to go down a scumbag road may as well go all out.

Serika ZeroApr 10, 20172 votes

looooooooooooooooool that made me chuckle irl