So now that ardent is gutted .

dominusx·Nov 6, 2017·1 votes·337 views

We can still see retarded amounts of burst per second with no counterplay from adcs consistently... they simply got rid of the draintank aspect. Yet their dmg still has almost no counterplay and they spike at 2 items pretty much as hard as an assasin like Zed does.

We didnt need ardent to see that the role is fundamentally broken and offers no counterplay yet EVERY OTHER ROLE offers counterplay to them at most stages of the game. If this isnt bias i dont know what is. And you gonna tell me BRUH PRE SEASON HURR DURR RUNES REFORGED. Bi-- i play on the pbe more than i do on Live as of late i dont see any adcs beeing gutted or left out. Do some PROPER work on toxic rightclick to win role and a lot of other annoying to deal wiht champs like Akali/Irelia etc faster. We dont need disney like hyper annoying mobity creep mages in the game we need a proper Marksman role overhaul and a lot of balance tweaks on champs.

5 Comments

KythersNov 6, 20171 votes

item 3047

thank me later

Jar Jar binks lNov 6, 20171 votes

well adc are somewhat bearable now, with ardent it was unbearable...

HarrowRNov 7, 20171 votes

I love how people scream that there's no counterplay to ADCs like only one team gets an ADC and the other one doesn't,why are you crying so hard if they are right click to win then why doesnt the ADC in your team carry you? Also im guessing most people that cry adcs are op and have no COUNTERPLAY would love to see old Tank meta or Duskblade in its broken state where you could just walk around and one shot anyone without worry

The Last BalladNov 9, 20171 votes

Isn't it kind of weird that the stat(crit) meant to help take down tanks, and nearly mandatory to do so, is better at taking down squishies then it is at tanks?

Itemizing against one type of champ shouldn't make you even stronger against their opposite. It would be like building item 3143 and being given more defense against mages than it gives you against adcs.

I love how people scream that there's no counterplay to ADCs like only one team gets an ADC and the other one doesn't,why are you crying so hard if they are right click to win then why doesn't the ADC in your team carry you?

Why would anyone play this game to be carried by someone else? I play support, but even I do it to carry my team(be it through destroying the enemy team with Zyra , setting up plays as Bard , or enveloping the adc in a bubble of protection as Rakan / Janna / Soraka , all the while getting vision across the map)

This is an accurate of the support/adc dynamic http://grabilla.com/07b09-32dec84b-fbb8-410c-a736-2bb3755bf843.html

Adc's get carried by the rest of the team(case and point: all the complaining about needing peel or they will die), not the other way around.

HarrowRNov 9, 20171 votes

Well the thing is your only perspective is damage,and a class called ATTACK DAMAGE CARRY shouldn't really suprise you that they do damage,what would the point of the class be if they didnt? If you look at a broader picture,ADCs cant : 1)TANK 2)HEAL 3)CC 4)Provide almost any utility The exceptions are ofcourse something like Ashe and Varus R,so yeah,they do damage,but most of them are immobile,no bonus armor no bonus mr no bonus hp walking targets,compare that to someone like a good Darius,Darkin Kayn,Yasuo,they can tank,they can deal damage,they have some CC,they have some utility (Windwall) etc,i had games where i was full build ADC,shooting at Kayn doing very little damage while he heals back up,knocks people up,eventually flashing to Q E R me and kill me,and at the end of the game he had the most damage in his team,not his ADC,thats what i call broken and op,and that was without anyone supporting him,most adcs are almost useless or just too easy to kill without a good support,and you need to consider two more things: A) Most ADCs arent even close to being strong/op whatever,take a look at Caitlyn,Lucian win rate,when was the last time Sivir carried you hard,or an Ezreal,so yeah obviously the itemization is not as big of a problem B) You complain about ADCs but don't realize most ADCs are support + adc glued together,like the photo you posted,so it kinda makes sense for a 2 man team that fits perfectly one for another to wreck everyone except another Supp + Adc