Why Mordekaiser's base stats are so low?

YumaS2Astral··1 votes·1,550 views

Compare them to Darius, another juggernaut (which is why I want to compare him to Mordekaiser)

Darius

  • Health at level 1: 582
  • Health at level 18: 2282
  • Health growth (base health gained per level): 100
  • Base health regeneration at level 1: 10
  • Base health regeneration at level 18: 26
  • Base AD: 56 - 141
  • Armor at level 1: 30
  • Armor at level 18: 98
  • Movement speed: 340

Mordekaiser

  • Health at level 1: 525
  • Health at level 18: 1766
  • Health growth (base health gained per level): 73
  • Base health regeneration at level 1: 4
  • Base health regeneration at level 18: 9
  • Base AD: 61 - 146
  • Armor at level 1: 20
  • Armor at level 18: 84
  • Movement speed: 325

Fun facts:

  1. Darius has the third highest base health at level 18: He only loses to Tryndamere and Alistar.
  2. Mordekaiser has the seventh lowest base health at level 18: He wins only against Gnar (mini form), Anivia, Zilean, Zyra, Nami, and Heimerdinger.
  3. The only champions that have a lower base health regeneration at level 1 than Mordekaiser are Soraka and Gnar (mini form)
  4. Even before the buffs, Riven had higher health regen than Mordekaiser
  5. Darius has the third highest base health regeneration at level 1. He only loses to Sion and Heimerdinger.
  6. At level 18, Darius only has lower health regeneration than Heimer, while Mordekaiser has the lowest health regeneration of all champions at level 18, with even Soraka and Gnar surpassing him thanks to their growth per level.
  7. Mordekaiser's base health regeneration at level 18 is lower than Darius' base health regeneration at level 1.
  8. Mordekaiser actually has an higher base AD than Darius, at level 1 and level 18. It is the only base stat that he has that is better than Darius. That said, Darius still has the third highest base AD at level 18.
  9. Mordekaiser's base armor at level 1 is between the 20 lowest base armor of all champions, while Darius has the second highest base armor at level 1.
  10. Mordekaiser's base armor is actually decent at level 18, but Darius still has the third highest armor at level 18.
  11. Taking into account only base stats, Sona is actually tankier than Mordekaiser, despite the fact that everyone (jokingly) says that Sona is squishier than a minion.

And then I ask. Why Mordekaiser's base stats are so low? Why Darius is allowed to have way better base stats than Mordekaiser, even though Darius has a much better early game, snowballs better, has better sustain, and has better 1x1 potential? Darius even has CC, while Mordekaiser has no CC at all (he is required to build Rylai).

Granted that Mordekaiser has his passive shield that technically adds to his health, but with Mordekaiser's base health being so low, the shield does not seem to be a bonus. It feels like a compensation for his base health being so low. It is the same situation as Sion: his base health is so low that in the end, the bonus health that he gains with his W feels more like a compensation than a bonus.

You may say that Mordekaiser usually ends up building item 3146 or item 3152, which is why his base health regeneration is so low. Here is the thing, though, with Darius having a better sustain in a portion of his missing health being restored, he doesn't even have to build sustain items like lifesteal or spellvamp. He may build item 3074 but in the end, this is not necessary, since his natural sustain usally is enough.

Also, while Mordekaiser is manaless. Darius' mana costs are low enough that being OOM is not a problem for him. While Morde has to spend health, therefore he essentially kills himself each time that he casts his spells.

6 Comments

Quepha1 votes

Mordekaiser's low base health and hp regen are because of his passive. Since all his abilities count as multitarget or DoTs, that would be the equivalent of 75% spell vamp (37.5% against minions) which is an insane amount of free durability/sustain.

Yes, there are lots of things that make his passive not quite as good as that, and Mordekaiser's low base hp and sustain are part of that.

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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Mordekaiser's low base health and hp regen are because of his passive. Since all his abilities count as multitarget or DoTs, that would be the equivalent of 75% spell vamp (37.5% against minions) which is an insane amount of free durability/sustain.

Yes, there are lots of things that make his passive not quite as good as that, and Mordekaiser's low base hp and sustain are part of that.

Yes, but as I explained, Mordekaiser's base stats are so low that in the end his passive just seems like a compensation for his base stats being low, rather than being a bonus to his base stats, like most champions - for example, Nocturne has a permanent attack speed bonus, but his base attack speed is not low.

I am not saying to buff Mordekaiser's base stats to Darius levels, but rather to buff them to a reasonable level. Currently, Mordekaiser is squishier than Sona, while Darius is one of the tankiest champions in the game.

Quepha1 votes

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Yes, but as I explained, Mordekaiser's base stats are so low that in the end his passive just seems like a compensation for his base stats being low, rather than being a bonus to his base stats, like most champions - for example, Nocturne has a permanent attack speed bonus, but his base attack speed is not low.

I am not saying to buff Mordekaiser's base stats to Darius levels, but rather to buff them to a reasonable level. Currently, Mordekaiser is squishier than Sona, while Darius is one of the tankiest champions in the game.

With a full shield, mordekaiser has more hp than Darius at level 1, and almost as much at level 18. If he goes into a fight at full charge and then uses even a single ability, he'll easily outstrip Darius in terms of base effective hp. His passive easily more than compensates for his low base stats.

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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With a full shield, mordekaiser has more hp than Darius at level 1, and almost as much at level 18. If he goes into a fight at full charge and then uses even a single ability, he'll easily outstrip Darius in terms of base effective hp. His passive easily more than compensates for his low base stats.

The problem is that it is almost impossible to get a full shield at level 1, his shield decays so quickly that Mordekaiser must be constantly charging it.

Quepha1 votes

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The problem is that it is almost impossible to get a full shield at level 1, his shield decays so quickly that Mordekaiser must be constantly charging it.

Mordekaiser's health also isn't that much lower than Darius's at level 1. After only a couple casts of Siphon he should have easily made up the difference, especially if he's hitting the enemy with it.

Reinou1 votes

Because Mordekaiser becomes pure cancer if he gets any buffs because the rework made him an even worse champion design than he used to be, and now less people play him.

=)

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