the sticky thread

Why do people bitch so much about riot changing the game "I know, you're not at a professional level so why be balanced like one? Well, simply put, pro-level players (Master/Challenger Tier) bring out the most of a champion. By definition they are the best in the world and the ones that define where the skill of the player stops becoming a factor and the system itself is put into question. Hence why the balance always shifts for pros much faster than others. Until you're on a pro level you as a player have room to expand as far as how well you do.

No one expects you to play at a pro level, but at the same time if a pro can abuse a certain aspect of a champion why leave that capacity for abuse in the game for you to work towards?

This does not invalidate your opinion in any way, but it can help explain the reasoning behind changes that may not make sense to you initially."

Every thing they do is to improve pro play you say? well no shit the pro's are the best if a pro player can abuse a champion then there is an issue with that champion

so for all you complaining about zed/morde/veigar/ anything

remember: there are 100+ other champions you can go find a way to abuse until riot nerfs those or buffs the old ones

the veigar changes?

ARE GOOD

veigar didnt need DFG his ult WAS DFG jesus it would hit even adcs super hard

his stun? thank god theres a delay that gives the option for counterplay so its not a "oh theres a random cage I cant dodge" AP ratios nerfs? good about time maybe ADC's who build no AP might not get one shot by his ult?

skillshot Q:

pros: the best aspect is farming his Q is now much easier and he actually can waveclear better, he gets more ap over time farming that Q up and can push lanes better with the Q and now relying on his dark matter

cons: not really a con but more of something I understand why people bitch about it, sure its a skillshot but that means veigar will actually take skill now instead of "press button click dead"

This mean YOULL ACTUALLY HAVE TO TRY and get good and have skill at this champion which makes the game BETTER and more interesting and fun to play.

lets face it people are only pissed because now they cant one shot people as veigar anymore even though that was incredibly broken and toxic to the core of the game

and broken as well when it would instagib even those without AP

now veigar is -balanced -takes skill -has viable counterplay -can still become very good as long as you arent a bad player

(also protip for those who complain he will get ganked alot and cant escape because of the delay AND THIS SHOULD BE COMMON SENSE WHEN IT COMES FROM A "BRONZE"

-buy wards -use your trinket and stick near the bush you warded -if enemy jungler comes into warded bush run -if enemy jungler comes from other bush run the other way -dont overextend with half health and no mana -try to avoid getting poked -dont push 24/7 and then complain that the jungler never ganks -map awarness because if jungler was just top hes prob coming to gank you -WARDS -if facing against a counter dont farm, just turtle and only last hit with auto attacks as best you can

SOME NOTES: there are things that are broken in this game that you people do bitch about, like mobility creep, except the mobility you guys focus on isnt broken at all... if youve played against a good yasuo who gets some CDR dash dash dash dash non stop, or a nasus who builds the swifty boots CDR then can wither you 24/7 or an ashe who actually maxes her Q first then proceeds to slow you forever

or morgs Q thats pretty damn annoying