ryze changes that Riot didnt want you to see

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300 seconds lul

casts R "Oh wow that was a cool spell! I'm looking forward to casting it next game again!"

Well it probably just makes max CDR and The Ultimate Hat mandatory on him for late game. I gues the idea is to making his early game weaker.

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300 seconds lul

casts R "Oh wow that was a cool spell! I'm looking forward to casting it next game again!"

Hahah

It's the same cd as , relax.

/kappa

I dont get why riot thinks his ult is so great they have to keep it. Its the part of him that takes him from trash tier to god tier dpeneding on whos playing him. And its not even that interesting.

His basic kit does so much damage he feels like 3-spell champion with extra ult for competetive/organized play. And they probably aimed this way to nerf mainly his pro scene presence.

it is just joke I am only kidd

do garen next pls

How about remove this unbalancable ultimate and bring back desperate power. I hate how Ryze is forced to be weak af just because his ult is op in the pro's. Never understood why you would give a champion which has been historically hard to balance a global ultimate

I don't play Ryze, is the new E-W root instant?

If it is, that doesn't really solve anything imo, yes it's more healthy because the Ryze player has to commit more resources and there is a real opportunity cost, but we have the same fallacious paradigm where a "skillshot" champion is starting every fight with a point and click crowd control spell that guarantees said skill shot (his Q) isn't a skillshot at all and always hits.

An healthy pattern or combo is, unreliable weaker spell upfront -> reliable powerful spell next, where both players get rewarded for avoiding/landing that weaker unreliable spell

If I understand that iteration correctly, the Ryze player still has all the agency when it comes to starting a fight and his opponent doesn't get to do anything about it since he still can't avoid the root and thus the entire Ryze combo.

Can you just rework his ultimate ability ? Its the most problematic spell in his kit (besides his point and click Root) and has little use outside of organized team play. It may be because I'm unranked and only play normals, but I can't even count how many times players ignore my ultimate. Double goes for the enemy team, who just seem completely blind or oblivious to it.

When he was first reworked with this ability, I loved it. I used it A LOT and I also played Ryze a lot (i spam normals, and with Ryze to avoid bans, I spammed Twisted Treeline to learn his combos and some mechanics) , so much so that he overtook my all time favorites in the enjoyment department ; Riven and Yasuo.

Never before have I found champions in this game with whom I connected with his playstyle like I did with Ryze. You guys have really hit the nail on the head with his thematic, and I love it much more then the simple and basic "Rune Mage" theme you had originally designed him around. Being a "rogue" mage fits him in a much better light than previously.

However, all of this being said, its really painful to play Ryze these days. I can take a losing lane and get positive creep score over my enemy, and in some cases, a KDA lead as well(Unranked games are really messy!) that can help me slingshot into late game at the mid game point. Despite my (personal opinion, i am obviously biased) skill with Ryze, and with my 6 years of laning experience, Ryze just doesn't feel worthy to play anymore. I can blame pro players for using him repeatedly in high level games and in the end, results in Ryze's nerfs, but its not their fault they they're trying to win.

And tbh, Ryze's ultimate is one of the best abilities in the game to lead your team to victory. Despite my negative personal experiences with it, the spell itself is a game changer, and I hope in the near future you remove it in favor of something else that can benefit Ryze more, on a personal level.

As it stands right now, his theme is dwarfed by his ultimate ; his personality and story claim he's a loner, roaming the lands dealing with World Runes and bringing peace (and sometimes strife as a result) to areas afflicted by the runes. He collects them, hoards them, and ultimately keeps them away from the evil champions(im assuming). He's also a loner, at this point in his life, he hates people and keeps them at arms length to protect them. In a twisted sort of way, he cares for all of them, deeply.

Obviously ,gameplay and thematics don't need to match up 100%...But the way I see it, there are two problems currently with Ryze ; His ultimate is too strong and game changing, and preferably needs to be changed into something else to fix his second problem of thematic dissonance.

I hope you took the time to read this, and I apologize if it was too long and you didn't feel like reading it. You gave us some great feedback when you guys reworked Quinn and a lot of healthy communication, Please repeat that with Ryze. Theres a lot of ryze lovers out there.

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If I was worried about people seeing them, I wouldn't have directly engaged players to talk about some stuff. There's some stuff coming to the PBE today most likely, and I'll be putting up a post soon with what's going on. It's been nice to get some early feedback from strict Ryze players before going broader first, mostly to talk through some options.

Is there a chance you can talk about Mordekaiser? Pretty please?

Damn Repertoir you've been feisty lately

You're not putting up with the community's criticism anymore

I like it

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I see that Riot has developed a thing for True Damage. First Camille, Conqueror and then this lol.

Honestly I don't mind these changes but I agree with the other guy below. Ryze needs his current ultimate just removed and replaced with someone else.

.....because Cho Gath Chomp Chomp Darius R... YI's wuju style... Ahri's ORB return true damage... Vayne's MAX HP % True damage... Red buff...

Never existed before Camille & Conqueror which came after 1+ year than another..

Mhm...

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I see that Riot has developed a thing for True Damage. First Camille, Conqueror and then this lol.

Honestly I don't mind these changes but I agree with the other guy below. Ryze needs his current ultimate just removed and replaced with someone else.

Idk why you're being downvoted when you are correct lol.

flash and teleport have 300 sec cd

Ryze to Syndra is a bad comparison, because their kits are different, they have different jobs. A 100% true damage bonus on Soraka won't do much. It's like saying Ashe is superior to Vayne because she has 50+ range. It's all about the context. I do agree giving Ryze true damage is a bad idea though.

It's from /r/Ryzemains.

These screenshots come from r/Ryzemains IIRC

Edit: Nvm the guy already answered your question.

Edit 2: i think that your overvaluing the true damage. Realize that for the true damage he is losing a massive flat damage amp on his Q. His wave clear early game has definitely been nerfed but late game he's going to be way stronger with the true damage combined with the lower cd on W and E. (People are really under valuing the new low cd on Max W. That is huge for Ryze with Max CDR.)

The True damage replaces the raw percent damage likely for a few reasons:

1. It cannot be amplified any further, in particular it doesn't benefit from anymore.
2. Minions don't have magic resistance, so it does less damage to minions than equivalent magic damage against even a squishy with no bonus magic resistance
3. It scales better against tanks/bruisers in exchange for scaling worse against squishy targets

I couldn't agree more. I do not give a damn about his ultimate. Also it is such a BS they are always talking pro players. They are less than 1% of the players community.

Bad. At that point you should probably use the point on another ability, and wait for your next level up for R. 300 seconds is a long time.