Remember when the "OP Juggernautzz" were in the LCS?

SquashCannon··1 votes·731 views

I do, that was last year, and it was really only Darius and the occasional Mundo (Morde was pretty much permabanned).

FeelsBadMan

item 3070 Darius Garen Mordekaiser Skarner Volibear DrMundo item 3070

The one outlier we've seen a few games with Illaoi the chosen juggernaut.

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1wolfpack3 votes

pepperidge farm remembers

VivaLaKitten1 votes

Darius and Illaoi are still broken

HaloDragonX1 votes

2016

Darius broken

???

Astôlfo2 votes

Neither of them are even close to broken, stop drinking.

VivaLaKitten1 votes

Illaoi has next to no counterplay in laning and Darius has next to no counterplay period ( he does, but only a few can actually do anything ) making them way too strong

Astôlfo2 votes

Entirely wrong on both accounts.

PermabannedGaren2 votes

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Illaoi has next to no counterplay in laning and Darius has next to no counterplay period ( he does, but only a few can actually do anything ) making them way too strong

Have you considered stepping to the side?

VivaLaKitten1 votes

it's not so easy when it happens every 5 seconds while you're trying to kill minions as a melee champion and its not so easy to predict her E which literally makes you take damage unless you run away preventing you from getting minions and as soon as you get back she does it all over again, you can't gank her because or her ult unless shes just stupid low and you somehow avoid the ult which is next to impossible because she has tentacles all over the lane, and you cant destroy the tentacles because she just pushes you back you have to be ranged to even try out trading her and even then its still nearly impossible

Zarkkast1 votes

Only half of that list of yours was in the LCS lol

SquashCannon1 votes

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Only half of that list of yours was in the LCS lol

"really only Darius and the occasional Mundo..."

Learn to read lol

Zarkkast1 votes

lol, I'm dumb.

Vallalan1 votes

garen will never be played outside of rare picks in LCS as he is way too binary and predictable. once a champion is predictable and easy to play around they are easily abused by organized teams. same with volibear.

juggernauts in general can really only do one thing and that it is run at you. once you pick one the enemy team stacks a kiting team like lulu, ezreal, karma, etc and just kite the juggernaut.

the only time juggernauts have ever been meta in pro play is when they hideously overpowered. mordekaiser, darius last worlds were disgusting. and illaoi right now isn't quite on that level but is still way too strong. basically the idea of these champs is that they work for solo queue but will never be relevant in pro play unless they are too strong.

SquashCannon1 votes

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garen will never be played outside of rare picks in LCS as he is way too binary and predictable. once a champion is predictable and easy to play around they are easily abused by organized teams. same with volibear.

juggernauts in general can really only do one thing and that it is run at you. once you pick one the enemy team stacks a kiting team like lulu, ezreal, karma, etc and just kite the juggernaut.

the only time juggernauts have ever been meta in pro play is when they hideously overpowered. mordekaiser, darius last worlds were disgusting. and illaoi right now isn't quite on that level but is still way too strong. basically the idea of these champs is that they work for solo queue but will never be relevant in pro play unless they are too strong.

Eh it depends on pick order.

The rise of champions like Hecarim who aren't built for disengage, but rather, engage, may allow us to see a few juggernaut games as they can capitalize on the fact that they don't have to run to the enemy since the enemy has to run to them.

VivaLaKitten1 votes

in blind pick it doesn't matter because your team can be just trying to have fun and then the enemy picks Illaoi supp or top, and you literally cant do anything . . . at all

Slack King1 votes

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I do, that was last year, and it was really only Darius and the occasional Mundo (Morde was pretty much permabanned).

FeelsBadMan

item 3070 Darius Garen Mordekaiser Skarner Volibear DrMundo item 3070

The one outlier we've seen a few games with Illaoi the chosen juggernaut.

Mordekaiser Keep my main out of LCS, id rather people not just play him to be cool

Erockandroll1 votes

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Mordekaiser Keep my main out of LCS, id rather people not just play him to be cool

He was in the meta briefly. Until Riot decided that giving a duo laner, solo lane XP was dumb.

Also, I don't know what happened, I'm watching the 2nd IMT vs P1 game, to find that P1 drew a Mord ban from IMT. So I'm going to have to go back and watch that game.

Edit: Just looked up the match history. I guess Jungle mord is a thing.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/TRLH1/1001800151?gameHash=ec7dffb3e766d0c3&tab=overview

Slack King1 votes

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He was in the meta briefly. Until Riot decided that giving a duo laner, solo lane XP was dumb.

Also, I don't know what happened, I'm watching the 2nd IMT vs P1 game, to find that P1 drew a Mord ban from IMT. So I'm going to have to go back and watch that game.

Edit: Just looked up the match history. I guess Jungle mord is a thing.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/TRLH1/1001800151?gameHash=ec7dffb3e766d0c3&tab=overview

It indeed is a thing

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