If a bug fix ends up being a significant nerf, can we not put it under the seldom read bugfixes...

SquashCannon·Jul 5, 2017·61 votes·2,695 views

And put the champion and its bugfix on the spotlight in the champions section of a patch?

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-711-notes

"When Darius triggers Noxian Might by applying a fifth Passive - Hemorrhage stack via Q - Decimate, Decimate now properly only applies one stack of Hemorrhage to other units hit"

That's such a gigantic ninja nerf to darius. And I noticed it because it significantly nerfs my teamfight in a great amount of scenarios. It would've been nice to know sooner instead of noticing it later. I was wondering why my teamfight was quite a bit weaker with some tactics that I've gotten used to (most notably, positioning to land a decimate on a lot of people when someone has 4 stacks).

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Pierce The VealJul 5, 201757 votes

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And put the champion and its bugfix on the spotlight in the champions section of a patch?

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-711-notes

"When Darius triggers Noxian Might by applying a fifth Passive - Hemorrhage stack via Q - Decimate, Decimate now properly only applies one stack of Hemorrhage to other units hit"

That's such a gigantic ninja nerf to darius. And I noticed it because it significantly nerfs my teamfight in a great amount of scenarios. It would've been nice to know sooner instead of noticing it later. I was wondering why my teamfight was quite a bit weaker with some tactics that I've gotten used to (most notably, positioning to land a decimate on a lot of people when someone has 4 stacks).

And here I was wondering how he magically got 5 stacks on everyone on teamfights...

Glad this interaction is removed, though I do agree it should have received some spotlight.

TotalJerkJul 6, 20172 votes

He can still apply 5 stacks with auto attacks.

Pierce The VealJul 6, 20171 votes

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He can still apply 5 stacks with auto attacks.

But that would take 4 seconds to apply to everyone.

WhatAGeiniusJul 6, 20174 votes

He can still apply 5 stacks to everyone using his Q, it just doesn't apply when your Q is what gets the 5th stack.

TotalJerkJul 6, 20172 votes

Oh what the fuck? That second thing sounds fucking insane. You're telling my I could get 4 stacks on someone, and then instantly apply 5 on everyone nearby with a Q?

EndlessSorcererJul 6, 20175 votes

That was the bug they fixed.

Big LincolnJul 6, 20171 votes

Only if you landed on the blade on the guy you got the fourth stack with

lofi n chillhopJul 5, 201714 votes

What I'd REALLY like is if they'd make sure to have the champion name at the same place for each bug-fix please. easier reading.

riven - casting q- broken wings...
zac - enemies no longer ...
fiora - no longer purges....

JunkοJul 5, 20178 votes

And preferably in alphabetic order. There have been multiple times where a champion has been mentioned, then 6 bugfixes later mentioned again. It's really weird how unorganized it is compared to the rest of patch notes.

CréamJul 5, 201711 votes

Darius main here, Uh you realize it was kinda broken and dumb right?

Like how does Q'ing a 4 stack person allow you to proc 5 stacks to all if you weren't in your passive mode?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6EjyL-l60Y

That bugfix separate good darius players from bad ones, Just saying

junglerboy16Jul 5, 201727 votes

He's only saying that it was left in the bottom of the notes, where it had enough impact on the game that it should have been listed up front in a clearer way so that people knew about it sooner/more easily.

The change makes sense, the way they told us about it doesn't.

Chembaron YamadaJul 6, 20172 votes

To be fair, does Riot really have to give big warning lights to people who were intentionally abusing a bug? Yes, it will have quite a large impact for these players that it got changed without them noticing in the patch notes.

But the players which are affected are actually players who willfully abused this interaction which was clearly not intended..... So in my opinion, it is fine not giving it big spotlight.

SteelflameJul 6, 201715 votes

They may well have not even know it was a bug, just a mechanic.

There are plenty of mechanics that ride the edge of being called bugs and bugs that ride the edge of being called mechanics. Hell. Look at Riven. Animation canceling wasn't meant to be a part of her kit originally, now its a core aspect that is directly supported by Riot.

Zero Skill TankJul 6, 20171 votes

No. That's not the same. Darius old interaction directly countered documentation available to players.

AwesomeGuyDjJul 6, 20171 votes

Holy fuck thats a bug? i thought q applying full stacks when in passive was intentional My god

EnloctJul 6, 20172 votes

No that part is intentional. Apparently you could do it to a whole team from 4 stacks though, if that Q happened to 5 stack one of them.

So you were applying 5 stacks to everyone it **as ** you proc the passive instead of before.

AwesomeGuyDjJul 6, 20172 votes

Ah, i read that wrong.

aspects1Jul 6, 20171 votes

it was a feature more than a bug, so it was more like removing a feature

SquashCannonJul 6, 20172 votes

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Darius main here, Uh you realize it was kinda broken and dumb right?

Like how does Q'ing a 4 stack person allow you to proc 5 stacks to all if you weren't in your passive mode?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6EjyL-l60Y

That bugfix separate good darius players from bad ones, Just saying

Darios I don't even feel like dealing with you, no one in our community likes you. The point of the thread was simply for riot to spotlight important bugfixes as if they were actual changes.

FurriesAreHotJul 6, 20176 votes

Wow that's really rude.

SquashCannonJul 6, 20172 votes

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Wow that's really rude.

No one in the darius main community likes him for good reason. You don't have to deal with him in discord and whatnot. If that's rude whatever, his original comment here was nothing but rude and condescending.

junglerboy16Jul 6, 20171 votes

Why drop to his level? If he's being rude, you be the bigger man and leave it be. Being a dick doesn't solve him being a dick, it only degrades your own public image.

You ended up sounding like far more of a jerk than him, while now he is getting sympathy instead, probably not what you were going for.

Ashen RiderJul 6, 20171 votes

Woahg

arghilostJul 6, 20171 votes

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Darios I don't even feel like dealing with you, no one in our community likes you. The point of the thread was simply for riot to spotlight important bugfixes as if they were actual changes.

hey look its this gold 2 idiot again that thinks hes high elo

SquashCannonJul 6, 20171 votes

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hey look its this gold 2 idiot again that thinks hes high elo

Hey look, its this guy that thinks this is my main account.

arghilostJul 6, 20171 votes

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Hey look, its this guy that thinks this is my main account.

implying plat 1 is any better, you're low elo get used to it.

RealČernochHoursJul 6, 20171 votes

Hey look 2 ~~%%%s~~, ahem, kiddos arguing about something off-topic

SquashCannonJul 6, 20171 votes

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implying plat 1 is any better, you're low elo get used to it.

Oh no! It's like I never really considered myself high elo in the first place! only riot considers me high elo!

You're irrelevant.

arghilostJul 6, 20171 votes

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Oh no! It's like I never really considered myself high elo in the first place! only riot considers me high elo!

You're irrelevant.

you're butthurt enough to reply everytime I troll you, so apparently not that irrelevant. I find weaklings like yourself and target them. Makes for easy entertainment.

SquashCannonJul 6, 20171 votes

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you're butthurt enough to reply everytime I troll you, so apparently not that irrelevant. I find weaklings like yourself and target them. Makes for easy entertainment.

Oh I don't really mind replying to you, to everyone else you're irrelevant. To me you hold just enough relevance to reply to but not much else.

"I find weaklings" - Probably some 140 pound 5'4 nerd in his basement ready to take on the world from his laptop.

You have a good one LUL

arghilostJul 6, 20171 votes

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Oh I don't really mind replying to you, to everyone else you're irrelevant. To me you hold just enough relevance to reply to but not much else.

"I find weaklings" - Probably some 140 pound 5'4 nerd in his basement ready to take on the world from his laptop.

You have a good one LUL

So basically I concern you greatly because you literally can't stop replying.

It's a shame you're 140 pounds 5'4 but I didn't do that to you, blame your poor genes. Hit the gym instead of projecting onto me.

Have fun in plat 1/gold 2

MarshbouyJul 5, 20173 votes

It is a little stupid that something as broken as Darius being able to apply full stacks on everyone being removed is put in the same spot as stuff like "fixed 1/1000 chance of poppy having VO bug is fixed"

AirKingNeoJul 6, 20173 votes

Same thing about the BoRK + Cleaver thing.

Arìes WíndJul 5, 20172 votes

OMG THIS WAS A BUG ?? No wonder why i though darius was too strong in teamfights, this was broken as fuck, good thing this don't work, but yes as i remember the legendary yasuo bug (im a yasuo main) that give an AA while we were ulting had a huge spotlight this should have been the case too. BUT meh priority for the most hated champion in league i guess :^)

Champion SkinJul 6, 20171 votes

Darius is strong in teamfights.... if he gets 5 stacks or a kill with his ult Since then he instantly get 5 stacks on AA, Q, R....

Though he can also be rather useless in teamfights.... if he doesn't get in range to land Q and AA's he won't get 5 stacks and even with 5 stacks it doesn't do much if he doesn't land Q or AA's on other targets (if Darius doesn't land his Q he doesn't have any durability from his kit and his damage isn't that great without triggering his passive... and he doesn't have much utility)

Arìes WíndJul 6, 20171 votes

What i am saying is this interaction was broken, not the general performance of darius in teamfights, darius is gamebreaker in teamfights depending on his own skill or the ennemy composition.

5 Stacks GGJul 6, 20172 votes

he got stealth nerfed quite a bit recently

CronofugeJul 6, 20172 votes

... you don't read all of those?

SquashCannonJul 6, 20172 votes

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... you don't read all of those?

No, I expect bugfixes to be a place where non-gameplay bugs are put. Things like "oh we fixed a visual bug here and whatnot"

Remember when renekton was recently patched and they actually highlighted a lot of the gameplay related bug fixes he got? That's all I'm asking for.

lofi n chillhopJul 6, 20171 votes

I try to most times but because it's such poor readability it gets annoying when half of them are "made it so this champion's skin that you never see doesn't visually glitch anymore." and that's very disruptive to my will to read them. especially after processing all the math from the normal buffs/nerfs