Dark Seal stacking was cute but can we make the healing not stack now
because it's fucking stupid
thanks
because it's fucking stupid
thanks
[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=i6K7cxTH,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-02-26T04:25:59.243+0000)
because it's fucking stupid
thanks
Someone lost to Proxy Singed, since he's the only real thing that abuses it.
"lost"
sure thing, buddy
lol talk about being exposed like an open wound
but i beat singed tho
Pics or it didnt happen

[{quoted}](name=Duke Anax,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=i6K7cxTH,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2017-02-26T05:06:28.831+0000)
If Soraka's started, and is stacking Dark Seals, then she's probably foregoing early support/utility items for her lane sustain. Playing against her honestly didn't change at all, you still need a hard all-in/burst on her to deal with her in lane. Healing over time means nothing if you just blow her up.
Soraka doesn't benefit as well from them as singed does. Singed's mana health scaling passive makes the stack very efficient on him.
So, as a singed main? I actually agree with you. It needs to be removed.
The problem is that riot keeps indirectly nerfing singed through item and mastery changes. He's taken several major hits with the rylai's nerfs, lethality buffs, ghost nerfs, CoC nerfs, and the zz'rot portal rework (which also killed triple proxy.)
I'm pretty sure the dark seal stack it's the only thing propping up his win rates right now even for singed one tricks. The problem is that all of his power is concentrated in lane bullying now. It's very difficult to actually proxy successfully. Even when you get very, very ahead in lane you still melt late game. Singed is basically being used for righteous Glory + flip engage past laning phase instead of being allowed to split push like his kit is designed for.
I want them to remove it because I don't want to play lane singed. But, they need to compensate buff singed if they're going to do it.
The item is fucking stupid and I build it every game. I have no idea why mejais needed a component that's one of the best early game items in the game, if not the best.
The item is fucking stupid and I build it every game. I have no idea why mejais needed a component that's one of the best early game items in the game, if not the best.
You really only upgrade to the Mejai's if you're steamrolling people anyways. It's a gimmick at best, and hardly OP. This isn't Triple Doran's Rengar levels of cheese going on. While it may be frustrating, the item is about equivalent to a Doran's Ring unless it is stacked, in which case the 'abuser' is investing time and gold on an item that really only offers some early lane sustain.
[{quoted}](name=Lord Malpercio,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=i6K7cxTH,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-02-26T10:23:15.894+0000)
You really only upgrade to the Mejai's if you're steamrolling people anyways. It's a gimmick at best, and hardly OP. This isn't Triple Doran's Rengar levels of cheese going on. While it may be frustrating, the item is about equivalent to a Doran's Ring unless it is stacked, in which case the 'abuser' is investing time and gold on an item that really only offers some early lane sustain.
Singed gets beefy with the extra mana per ring since his passive gives him hp from it not including the ap, and it sells much better than dorans. Its pretty broken on him actually lol.
[{quoted}](name=Fringed Puccoon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=i6K7cxTH,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-02-26T11:00:05.885+0000)
Singed gets beefy with the extra mana per ring since his passive gives him hp from it not including the ap, and it sells much better than dorans. Its pretty broken on him actually lol.
Singed is a champion in dire need of a rework because he is the -most uninteractive champion in the game-. Worse than Tryndamere.
or it could be made less gold efficient since it builds into a risky item anyways..
Thats the main reason its even stacked lol
remember when they made it to 5 pots max because 13 was just too much sustain?
Yep pretty bad when you can't hard counter singe cause oh look he built 6 dark seals and is unkill-able
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