So blood razor is meh.

Paroe··1 votes·431 views

can we change it to: Van dams dagger +40% attack speed +30% critical strike chance Unique passive: (standard jungle passive) Uninque passive: Pledge of blood: Critical strikes are twice as likely when attacking monsters. and critical strikes deal an additional 50% damage when in the jungle.

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Narvuntien2 votes

It is true its meh. I think I came up with a better soultion.

Where it stacks (up to a cap) as you kill monsters then deals burst damage with your first attack on a champion. That way it is encouraging actually leaving your jungle to gank. It will feel like a big crit.

I think just providing AS is fine but the passive is bad for the game as it is now.

Bears Dont Care1 votes

So... Warwick has no items now

Paroe1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bears Dont Care,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=i4ULHOuE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-05-15T01:34:27.485+0000)

So... Warwick has no items now

its still attack speed, and its guranteed damage while in the jungle. 60% crit rate is nothing to sneeze at. especially with 250% crits, and with IE, would go to 300% crits in the jungle.

Riot has also proven that they have a heavy AD bias, and with this we could get actual ADC junglers, not strange amalgams of ADCs like kindred and graves.

Sasogwa3 votes

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its still attack speed, and its guranteed damage while in the jungle. 60% crit rate is nothing to sneeze at. especially with 250% crits, and with IE, would go to 300% crits in the jungle.

Riot has also proven that they have a heavy AD bias, and with this we could get actual ADC junglers, not strange amalgams of ADCs like kindred and graves.

But we do NOT want adc jungles. They're already broken enough to confiscate definitely a role for the past 5 or 6 seasons and do not need to take over every other roles as well, stop !

Bears Dont Care1 votes

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its still attack speed,

Which devourer and bloodrazor provide already

and its guranteed damage while in the jungle.

Every item provides guaranteed damage in the jungle even cinderhulk!

60% crit rate is nothing to sneeze at. especially with 250% crits, and with IE, would go to 300% crits in the jungle.

Warwick ISN'T built to be using crit as a main form of his damage period. He relies on attack speed and on hit effects to deal damage. He isn't master Yi, he can't stick to a target or gap close repeatedly. He relies on his ult for damage, CC, and gap closing. This is why he builds nashor's/botrk. They proc on hit effects.

You CANNOT proc crit effects using on hit abilities unless its specifically programmed for it. Warwick cannot in anyway use this item.

Riot has also proven that they have a heavy AD bias, and with this we could get actual ADC junglers, not strange amalgams of ADCs like kindred and graves.

WHYYYYYYY!?

Te jungle is the only lane that was sage for mele characters. Graves and Kindred prove how hard it is to balance Ranged champs in the jungle and you..want to promote their usage? ... Ugh, no thanks.

Lyless1 votes

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So... Warwick has no items now

right. I stopped playing jg because of this.

IWrath1 votes

No. Just no.

Sukishoo1 votes

It's getting buffs in the next patch.

Zarkkast1 votes

Finally Yasuo jungle will be viable. Yasuo

Milodic Mellodi1 votes

Jungle's always been viable for him, at least as a playable route. Not much change there.

Sneakyy XD1 votes

Unless the formula for armor and MR changes, Bloodrazor will never be good for any real amount of time.

Milodic Mellodi1 votes

Sure, let's change it so Vayne can clear the Jungle even faster than she can now, that makes a lot of sense. Oh, and let's not forget she'll be able to pretty much 1/2v5 across a huge percentage of the 4 quadrants of the map thanks to the increased Crit damage, because we didn't already have item 3031 to do that for her.

Paroe1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Milodic Mellodi,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=i4ULHOuE,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2016-05-16T01:13:21.330+0000)

Sure, let's change it so Vayne can clear the Jungle even faster than she can now, that makes a lot of sense. Oh, and let's not forget she'll be able to pretty much 1/2v5 across a huge percentage of the 4 quadrants of the map thanks to the increased Crit damage, because we didn't already have item 3031 to do that for her.

80% of team fights take place in the lane or river. 10% take place in a base. 10% take place in the jungle.

Milodic Mellodi1 votes

You're still saying that it's okay to have +75% Crit damage in the Jungle quadrants with Infinity Edge added. Pretty much saying that once you get both items you'll be able to effectively shut down Farming and Control Junglers with no problem at all, as well as easily Counterjungle any opposing Junglers (Ganking, Farming, or Control) due to the doubled Crit Chance against monsters. Something like this would make unhealthy gameplay, and certain Champs who could abuse the combination of these items would end up being banned much likelier (which in turn causes them to get nerfed to oblivion).

FourVsFive1 votes

its gonna be really good next patch.

Icestar11861 votes

That's a little OP...

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