I'm then told in all chat how Shen requires no skill, that cinderhulk and skirmishers need a nerf, and that if I wasn't using such a broken champ, I wouldn't have killed Jinx.
Are these the same people Riot has to appease?
Are these the same people Riot listens for balance?
Is this the reason why champs like Shen, Darius, and Garen won't get actual BUFFS?
RavenKouhai3 votestrust me u do not want darius buffs
IsIsGankedParis1 votesI do, I want him to be half decent for once.
Sona Ping2 votesDarius, and Garen won't get actual BUFFS?
"Actual"? Really? Did you just come out of a coma or do you just not read patch notes? Seriously though, you complain about people's mindset towards game changes but your standard for buffs seems to be "let them 1v3 eight minutes in".
IsIsGankedParis2 votesI'm talking buffs to make them viable, not small buffs that won't do shit to them in actual games that are competitive, I can't pick Darius competitively.
PolygonSymphony1 votes[{quoted}](name=GayBar PornStar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=i0XqOQ2E,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2015-04-20T03:50:07.921+0000)
I'm talking buffs to make them viable, not small buffs that won't do shit to them in actual games that are competitive, I can't pick Darius competitively.
Darius is still competitively viable as a lane counter to any melee champ, same as garen. No matter what buffs or nerfs they receive they will always have a niche role that they fill. Part of the problem is that you are trying to take niche role champs and use them in any comp. Not every comp fits every champ.
Cinderhulk I'm fine with, but this
or any of it's build variants is op as balls. They fact that one can combine cinder hulk with this item gives all jgers an immense amount of power extremely early in the game. Blue smite items are straight up op. Please don't nerf riot, I'm not done riding the eve freelo train yet, and she's only viable because of this item. Hell she's viable mid lane again because of this item and the team gets to run double smite for mad obj control, which is cool in a world where cho and nunu see tons of play.
IsIsGankedParis1 votesDarius does NOT COUNTER EVERY MELEE CHAMP.
Darius has melee counters, would you like me to list them?
Cho'Gath Pantheon Riven(this is a skill match-up) Garen(skill match-up) Rumble Renekton(skill match-up, they are both one in the same) Mordekaiser Yorick Malphite Singed(if the singed player knows what the hell he's doing)
Do I need to list more?
Sona Ping1 votes"Do I need to list more?" You probably shouldn't.
[{quoted}](name=GayBar PornStar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=i0XqOQ2E,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2015-04-20T04:01:18.874+0000) Darius has melee counters,
Riven(this is a skill match-up) Garen(skill match-up) Renekton(skill match-up, they are both one in the same)
Considering you list match-ups, you, yourself, define as equal matches, and list them as "Counters", you don't get what they are. Further, outside the early game that match-up in reality favors Darius, for example.
ForgiveColour1 votesyeah cinderhulk does need a nerf
Snake Town1 votesdoes darius really need a buff?
Strawberrycocoa1 votesI'm pretty sure Riot doesn't really listen to anyone but Diamond+ regarding gameplay feedback. The rest of us just work with what the High Elo Overlords decree.
WolfChases1 votesTank finally able to annihilate ADC > Needs a nerf ASAP :3
IcyPepper1 votesI'm then told in all chat how Shen requires no skill
Since when is right-clicking everything to death skill? Sure, as Jinx you press R and E and W every once in awhile, but still.
Besides, it's her fault for positioning. If you let a tank in melee range, you're kiting wrong.