What if Vayne's E knocked back 50 + target AA range rather than 470?

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Vayne needs to be nerfed, right? What would be the implications for this kind of nerf according to you? What I see is that she wouldn't have such a safe laning phase against a gank by a melee jungler / an all-in by the support, but that'd have the downside of slightly buffing her pick potential on the ADC. If this becomes too much, the cast range could be decreased.

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Yash Gautam2 votes

Yeah people say her laning is terrible even when she can't get ganked with her E and Q

ReshiKillim1 votes

Do notice that this would actually be a buff vs most Ranged champions. It'd knock them back farther than it currently does, making landing the stun or escaping even easier then before.

This would bone every champion who has an auto-attack ranger increaser, passive or active. Wouldn't be a pretty sight.

MohawkBird1 votes

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Sakura Mirage1 votes

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But it actually helps the people who have trouble getting to her. It's way easier for a range champ to reach Vayne than it is for someone like an Olaf (mind his ult).

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Photos of Ghosts1 votes

I noticed and said it, but the cast range could be reduced. And if it's too much of a nerf (but it gets complex and counterintuitive) it could be like 100 + 50% of their range.

ReshiKillim1 votes

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I noticed and said it, but the cast range could be reduced. And if it's too much of a nerf (but it gets complex and counterintuitive) it could be like 100 + 50% of their range.

Well, it would start getting weird as the interactions of it would be more situational. It would be nerfed against all the ADC without a range increaser, but Trist, Twitch and Kog would still be punished more by her.

A cast range reduction without altering knockback range would increase riskiness while probably being the only safe way to nerf it without unbalancing her kit.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

that would make the skill be terribly inconsistent, why would some champions be knocked back further than others? it will just over complicate the skill needlessly and will create frustration to not only Vayne players but whoever engages her

Jbels1 votes

Or just change her True damage to Physical or Magic damage.

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