The Assassin update is a failure.

lolipopevelynn·Nov 14, 2016·9 votes·1,134 views

To understand why its a failure, its important to understand why riot wanted to update assassins in the first place.

Riot: We want the opponent to have windows of opportunity when fighting an assassin. We don't want an assassin to unload all of their damage all at once onto a target.

Meanwhile and even a damn full AP does EXACTLY that.

So why would I pick any of the assassins when burst mages pretty much do exactly what assassins were reworked into not doing? Surely you guys have to see how flawed this is right? just presses a bunch of buttons and deletes an carry in .5 seconds where as a kat or LB takes 2.5 seconds just to set up their combos.

13 Comments

DynikusNov 14, 20166 votes

the difference is burst mages are incredibly immobile in comparison.

lolipopevelynnNov 14, 20161 votes

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the difference is burst mages are incredibly immobile in comparison.

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LankPantsNov 14, 20161 votes

Both of these summoner spells are massively overpowered, people are used to flash being overpowered at this point but ghost definitely puts a lot of champions over the edge. Still his point is correct, burstmages are far less mobile than assassin, there's not even a comparison here, the average number of dashes or blinks on an assassin's kit is somewhere around 2, the total number of dash abilities on burst mages kits is two, Liss E and Ahri R.

RalanrNov 14, 20163 votes

Honestly, I'm having fun playing as and fighting assassins. So I consider that a success.

ChaddyFantomeNov 14, 20163 votes

LB takes 2.5 seconds just to set up their combos.

first of all its 1.5 seconds. Second of all, if you are waiting and doing nothing during that 1.5 seconds, you are doing it wrong, lol.

I am PacmanNov 14, 20163 votes

The difference is burst mages need to set up in order to 100-0 you. Typically have to hit their cc and are plagued with a lack of mobility.

Assassins don't need to set up as simply being near you will suffice to start them and because they have mobility (and thus can engage from a much greater range) they need to have counterplay after they jump on you or else it isn't fair.

lolipopevelynnNov 14, 20161 votes

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The difference is burst mages need to set up in order to 100-0 you. Typically have to hit their cc and are plagued with a lack of mobility.

Assassins don't need to set up as simply being near you will suffice to start them and because they have mobility (and thus can engage from a much greater range) they need to have counterplay after they jump on you or else it isn't fair.

set up what? Syndra just needs to land a few Q and then press R. Annie just needs to press E 3 times and then flash on top of people.

ChaddyFantomeNov 14, 20162 votes

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Assassins don't need to set up as simply being near you will suffice to start them and because they have mobility

Bullshit, Talon needs to hit t hits of W to get his Passive, Leblanc needs to wait out her Passive to get the bonus damage, Nidelee needs to hit her Q, Zed needs to land his Qs, Rengar needs to scope out to see if there is anyone there to stop him from catching someone out.

Like 90% of the update was making assassins need to se up to kill u.

jinxedchefNov 14, 20162 votes

I don't think Annie hits that hard any more. LeBlanc hits way harder, and can freely escape at anytime. Annie usually goes in and then dies.

resumedNov 14, 20162 votes

meanwhile rengar 1 shot me when i was shyvana when i was in dragon form and a level ahead. me lvl 15 and him lvl 14 (or 16 and 15? cant quite remember)

Rengar item 1400 item 3074 item 3158 item 3071 Shyvana item 1416 item 3748 item 3111 item 1031 item 1011

silly me thinking i could duel an assassin with an "extended burst window" as a juggernaut

he had 4 stacks of his passive and it took him less than 2 seconds to kill me [zombie-nunu-bummed]

lolipopevelynnNov 14, 20161 votes

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meanwhile rengar 1 shot me when i was shyvana when i was in dragon form and a level ahead. me lvl 15 and him lvl 14 (or 16 and 15? cant quite remember)

silly me thinking i could duel an assassin with an "extended burst window" as a juggernaut

he had 4 stacks of his passive and it took him less than 2 seconds to kill me [zombie-nunu-bummed]

you had shit all f or def. I hate when people build a fucking chain vest and think they have 1 trillion armor. You were squishy. I know that's hard for you to accept, but when you rush a bloodrazor and the only item for def you have is a titanic and a chain vest and you suddenly think you can tank nukes then that is on you.

FYI, that rengar was up an entire item over you, which included BC to shread whatever little armor you did build.