New Graves build is absolutely cancerous

Mannny·Mar 25, 2017·1 votes·1,283 views

on is just disgusting... This 'bruiser' build that is basically a build that can tank and assassinate is just disgusting and unhealthy for the game. Graves in general never falls off which is a huge issue. Items like these make him tanky and still allow him to assassinate. Graves ad scaling and base damage are wayyyyyy too high for a build like this. He should either go the tanky route and do little damage or go full damage and assassinate with it but not both. He shouldn't get to be able to frontline and assassinate at the same time.

16 Comments

DreadlocksMar 25, 20171 votes

Sorry to hear that you got rekt mate :)

MannnyMar 25, 20171 votes

I beat graves often but I also don't beat him often. I'm just saying in general he is unhealthy with this build.

DreadlocksMar 26, 20171 votes

So what you are saying is, you lose as much as you win vs graves :) and whats unhealthy to you is unhealthy to someone else.. I could sit and complain about gnar with mallet black cleaver too cuz he has range and can abuse it over minions has a higher range E gap closer and his W has an added slow. :) Or that twitch is unhealthy with Runans because he can more easily apply his passive with ult + runans :) I could go on but u get the idea hah.

MannnyMar 26, 20171 votes

With Graves having the highest ban rate and dominating solo queue AND competitive play I think I am not the only one complaining about how stupid Graves is. Gnar has a horribly low winrate and is hardly ever picked in competitive play so the comparison is not there whatsoever.

DreadlocksMar 26, 20171 votes

Ur also complaining about a build that isnt even popular.

MannnyMar 26, 20171 votes

Really? because it has a 36.04% play rate on Graves currently with a 60% win rate.

DreadlocksMar 26, 20171 votes

Idk where you are getting those numbers.. lol

MannnyMar 26, 20171 votes

Check op.gg. As a graves main like yourself you seem to use it fairly often. A Graves main using those 3 items as a core does say a lot.

DreadlocksMar 27, 20171 votes

champion.gg doesnt have mallet in any of the ranks.

MannnyMar 27, 20171 votes

I like how so many Graves players get mallet including you but you still think it's not a core on Graves.

DreadlocksMar 27, 20171 votes

i just started buying it bcuz i tend to get blown up without building like a damn tank lol. Better graves players dont need it.

https://na.op.gg/champion/graves/statistics/jungle No Mallet.

btw i'm not arguing if its good or not, im saying its not core like you are.

MannnyMar 27, 20171 votes

Okay fair enough. It's not core and the numbers don't lie so I won't sit here and say it is. However, my point still stands as this build provides too much for Graves.

DreadlocksMar 27, 20171 votes

It provides too much for A LOT of champions, they just dont opt for it.

MannnyMar 28, 20171 votes

Not really. I'll use Gnar for example, who builds these things normally but isn't even half as OP as Graves.

DreadlocksMar 28, 20171 votes

You mean cuz LCS has abused him to the point where he has been nerfed A LOT? Yet he's still being played in LCS a decent amount again abusing those 2 items... I actually saw a renekton get mallet in LCS too.. lol

But ultimately, Graves is a little better in solo Q than Gnar..