Why is Lux free elo?

blfUvZ8Ybu··6 votes·2,983 views

Why? I'm waiting answer from Lux mains.

You cry Lux mains.Because she is op and free elo.I wanted only reasons.I didn't want excuses.

Please downvote me.You're salty.Is it nice free elo champion?

Answer;Lux is free elo because secret and unneccessary buffs.Also she needs nerfs.Lets you dismiss!

91 Comments

Blumpkin Nation7 votes

She isn't freelo. The reason why she may be coming off stronger than normal is because of the bans. Fiora/Rengar/Zed, etc. Basically, champions that are being banned are a good counter to her.

However, outside of that... It's because her synergy with the masteries is outstanding. That's Riot's fault, though. She basically has a great way of procing TLD (which acts as an early game Luden's - which is awful considering the two combined late game). Again, Riot's fault.

Her range and utility are great, but her shields aren't going to always be saving lives when it comes to late game. Which is the other issue (Riot's fault). Riot made the game a much more snowball-type game in which the average game length is now 20(surrender)-35 minutes. Most probably averaging 28 minutes. This is the point in the game for a lot of champions are at their best. Lux is at her best when she's ahead and reaches the mid game. Late game, she's only going to blow up a careless ADC or Support if they didn't build one MR item.

Yes, Lux has a safer laning phase, but she doesn't offer much in the form of when she uses her E to waveclear and you dive her. Yeah, she can snare you but if you have the trading tools, she'll just blow through more mana than you.

Please remember that S6 is about (almost) every champion being strong because the damage in this game has spiraled out of control. What happens when damage is out of control? Utility mages make a comeback. Assassins become popular again.

The Whamboozler5 votes

Because you're bad at dealing with her and let her play the game exactly like she wants to?

Hello, Lux main since two years back here. Lux may have gotten a boost in strength lately but she's not the freakin' terminator here. She works well with thunderlords and her E is easier to land now... she also got a little help from Luden's Echo being introduced which bolstered her otherwise sub-par waveclear and mobility... AND her strongest period in the game is mid game... the point at which most games END now.

That said, she has the same flaws she's always had. She's immobile, squishy, 100% skillshots, and a little mana hungry. It's ironic that she's considered so strong now when for ages she was THE definition of a balanced pick mid. She used to struggle against both hardcore tanks AND assassins, the late of whom countered her in lane pretty hard BUT she could handle by just playing very, very safely. Riot nerfed MR, making all mages stronger overall, then made AP items more expensive, making mages with good base damages more viable early on. Lux feels strong now because most of her rivals are in the dumpster. Xerath used to out-perform her as a poke/seige mage but he doesn't combo to abuse thunderlords as easily so he's ignored. Ziggs used to outperform her as a poke/waveclear mage but he got nerfed for it. She has no rivals right now at what she does.

What's more, AD mids are VERY common now thanks to all the juicy AD items being thrown around, and games with more than one adc are ALSO a thing. I'm looking at you, Graves jungle/mid/top. The role Lux performs best against? Adcs. She outranges even Caitlyn and she has some nasty burst for their squishy butts. The abundance of AD mids also means a lot of MELEE mids, which she can harass brutally without much fear of reprisal. Also, come later on in the game, she will have more waveclear than most AD mids (Once she has Ludens, at least) and they'll suffer in seiges unless someone else on their team has an answer for sieges. Most assassin mids don't. Add in the fact that the teams often go very AD heavy and Lux gives her team an advantage just by providing strong magic damage, forcing them to not stack JUST armor, like her team can against them. The only other popular magic damage mid right now is Ahri... an assassin. Of lesser popularity are LeBlanc and Diana. ALSO assassins. Both having issues with waveclear, too.

Lux is strong right now due to the meta, not her numbers or her kit. She needs other mages to be brought up to her level a little. Until it happens though, here's some advice for beating her.

  1. Dodge: Obviously, she's all skillshots. Her E is painfully hard to dodge, but it isn't game-breaking on it's own, especially early. DODGE HER Q. Her snare is thin and sets up her entire combo. 90% of the time landing her Q is how she gets kills. Avoid that at all costs. EVERY champion has mobility these days. Use it.

  2. Roam: If you're an assassin mid and Lux is playing safe... roam. She's hard to kill in lane if she's playing defensively (and most Lux do) but she's also slow, fragile and vulnerable to being overwhelmed if she leaves the safety of her tower. Roam. Go bot and snowball them. Go top and snowball the bruiser. Coordinate with your jungler's movements to 4 man bot or even bait a gank bot and ambush Lux if she tries to follow. Many won't. If she doesn't, just punish other lanes hard and snowball your team. This is the best way to beat a turtling Lux. And don't just try to feed the carry... Lux can burst the carry. Feed that top lane Wukong or Malphite. She struggles against people with gapclosers who are kinda tanky. Lux can't do shit when your 6/1 Malphite ults her under tower except try like hell to run. Get someone sturdy enough to survive dives and Lux's impact on the game is VASTLY diminished.

3: Punish her: Any time she misses that snare, go in on her. If she's hugging tower and you're not tanky perhaps not, but her E pushes lane if she farms with it. She has to push at some point, and once her Q is down she is pretty defenseless. Gap-closers win here. Mid to late game any missed binding should see someone attempt to punish Lux if at all possible. In lane, use it as your opportunity to harass her or even dive for a kill.

4: Tanks: I know, everyone wants to be the carry or assassin and get kills. Lux fares very well against squishy teams, no matter how much damage they pack. What she struggles against? Tanky hard-engage teams full of people like Malphite, Jarvan, Diana, Xin Zhao, Wukong, Amumu, etc etc. Save Wu, not many of these champs are popular now, but they brutally punish Lux's lack of speed and durability. I have lost mid lane to... no joke... a Jarvan mid, who built hydra first froze lane near his tower and just all-ined me with his flag pull every time I came out to even ATTEMPT to farm. Just don't pick tanky people who are easy to kite like Darius unless someone else on your team has the hard engage to start the fight so you can waddle in.

In short, give the meta time to shift and she'll fade back to normal. Her counters aren't popular picks right now and nearly everything is going her way in terms of normal team comps and how people play the game. Either you can DARE to break the meta and play different champs and comps than the ones everyone else is playing... or you can just try to abuse her weaknesses as best you can until the meta shifts and she's not longer in such an ideal spot. Or the old fail-safe way to get better... play a few Lux games and see what people do that gives you a hard time. The easiest way to learn how to beat a champion is to play them and learn their weaknesses.

Try it, and good luck!

Void Nargacuga3 votes

OP isn't going to listen to you at all. Though this info is informative, I will take it to heart. Thanks for the info! [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

The Whamboozler3 votes

Thanks yourself. I put in more effort than I probably should to replying here and it's always the same "lol, u just mad" or "kid defendin' freelo". I don't even play ranked... too stressful. I'm just telling people what little I know about one of my mains to quell the tide of people screaming OP. It's nice to see someone who would rather learn than just scream for nerfs and stay ignorant! Or at least someone willing to be polite on the internet!

A cookie to you, sir!

Void Nargacuga1 votes

Whats funny is I don't get why the don't post on their "Main" account since this is OBVIOUSLY their smurf. Even had that said to me.

No recent games found when using euw.op.gg. Just pointless spam.

Also: Thanks for the cookie! item 2010

The Whamboozler2 votes

No prob. I'm glad my words weren't wasted. The OP is some sort of insane rage-monster who as far as I can tell is spamming every Lux post with hate and downvotes and crying "OP, pls nerf" and "freelo" without actually trying to explain his/her reasons for why he/she thinks Lux is so broken. At first I put my post in here hoping to help a player who asked for answers. Now I realize the OP is just a rager with too much free time who will stubbornly cling to their opinion no matter what and isn't interested in actually hearing any opinion that doesn't agree with them.

So I'm glad someone got SOMETHING out of it. As odd as this sounds, I hope you do well against Lux players in the future. I really don't think she's OP and she has a lot of built-in flaws that people can exploit to ruin her day. She's also one of my favorite champs, even if I'm on a huge Jhin kick lately, and I don't want to see her nerfed for daring to be viable for a few weeks. Once the meta shifts a bit, I'm certain she'll be a less popular and successful pick. I'm worried that the people who find it easier to bitch and cry for nerfs rather than learn how to play a match up properly will whine enough to get my girl nerfed. And if they nerf my baby into the ground... I'm still gonna play her. Because that is what real mains DO.

I'm talkin' to YOU, random guys reading this who always seem to be "mains" of that super-popular champ that is being spammed in every game. You're not "Graves mains" or whatnot... you're just riding trends. Next month you'll "main" whomever takes over as OP once the current power-picks aren't as popular anymore.

Void Nargacuga1 votes

Its probably gonna take me awhile to get use to playing against her though due to the fact that I haven't played against or as Lux enough times (once each not counting bots) to do well against her. Plus not having the Per-Side Off-set camera isn't helping me either since it made my laning phase so much easier since the camera wasn't centered on my Champion.

But each match should be treated as a learning experience. As long as I leave the match with more knowledge its a win for me.

Lord Azır2 votes

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AND her strongest period in the game is mid game... the point at which most games END now.

If by "mid game" you mean the second she hits level 6 then you are wrong. And the average game time didn't go down by as much as people say. It went from an average of 40 minutes to about 36 minutes. And the main reason to this is people are starting to surrender a whole lot more and just give up at 20 minutes.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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Because you're bad at dealing with her and let her play the game exactly like she wants to?

Hello, Lux main since two years back here. Lux may have gotten a boost in strength lately but she's not the freakin' terminator here. She works well with thunderlords and her E is easier to land now... she also got a little help from Luden's Echo being introduced which bolstered her otherwise sub-par waveclear and mobility... AND her strongest period in the game is mid game... the point at which most games END now.

That said, she has the same flaws she's always had. She's immobile, squishy, 100% skillshots, and a little mana hungry. It's ironic that she's considered so strong now when for ages she was THE definition of a balanced pick mid. She used to struggle against both hardcore tanks AND assassins, the late of whom countered her in lane pretty hard BUT she could handle by just playing very, very safely. Riot nerfed MR, making all mages stronger overall, then made AP items more expensive, making mages with good base damages more viable early on. Lux feels strong now because most of her rivals are in the dumpster. Xerath used to out-perform her as a poke/seige mage but he doesn't combo to abuse thunderlords as easily so he's ignored. Ziggs used to outperform her as a poke/waveclear mage but he got nerfed for it. She has no rivals right now at what she does.

What's more, AD mids are VERY common now thanks to all the juicy AD items being thrown around, and games with more than one adc are ALSO a thing. I'm looking at you, Graves jungle/mid/top. The role Lux performs best against? Adcs. She outranges even Caitlyn and she has some nasty burst for their squishy butts. The abundance of AD mids also means a lot of MELEE mids, which she can harass brutally without much fear of reprisal. Also, come later on in the game, she will have more waveclear than most AD mids (Once she has Ludens, at least) and they'll suffer in seiges unless someone else on their team has an answer for sieges. Most assassin mids don't. Add in the fact that the teams often go very AD heavy and Lux gives her team an advantage just by providing strong magic damage, forcing them to not stack JUST armor, like her team can against them. The only other popular magic damage mid right now is Ahri... an assassin. Of lesser popularity are LeBlanc and Diana. ALSO assassins. Both having issues with waveclear, too.

Lux is strong right now due to the meta, not her numbers or her kit. She needs other mages to be brought up to her level a little. Until it happens though, here's some advice for beating her.

  1. Dodge: Obviously, she's all skillshots. Her E is painfully hard to dodge, but it isn't game-breaking on it's own, especially early. DODGE HER Q. Her snare is thin and sets up her entire combo. 90% of the time landing her Q is how she gets kills. Avoid that at all costs. EVERY champion has mobility these days. Use it.

  2. Roam: If you're an assassin mid and Lux is playing safe... roam. She's hard to kill in lane if she's playing defensively (and most Lux do) but she's also slow, fragile and vulnerable to being overwhelmed if she leaves the safety of her tower. Roam. Go bot and snowball them. Go top and snowball the bruiser. Coordinate with your jungler's movements to 4 man bot or even bait a gank bot and ambush Lux if she tries to follow. Many won't. If she doesn't, just punish other lanes hard and snowball your team. This is the best way to beat a turtling Lux. And don't just try to feed the carry... Lux can burst the carry. Feed that top lane Wukong or Malphite. She struggles against people with gapclosers who are kinda tanky. Lux can't do shit when your 6/1 Malphite ults her under tower except try like hell to run. Get someone sturdy enough to survive dives and Lux's impact on the game is VASTLY diminished.

3: Punish her: Any time she misses that snare, go in on her. If she's hugging tower and you're not tanky perhaps not, but her E pushes lane if she farms with it. She has to push at some point, and once her Q is down she is pretty defenseless. Gap-closers win here. Mid to late game any missed binding should see someone attempt to punish Lux if at all possible. In lane, use it as your opportunity to harass her or even dive for a kill.

4: Tanks: I know, everyone wants to be the carry or assassin and get kills. Lux fares very well against squishy teams, no matter how much damage they pack. What she struggles against? Tanky hard-engage teams full of people like Malphite, Jarvan, Diana, Xin Zhao, Wukong, Amumu, etc etc. Save Wu, not many of these champs are popular now, but they brutally punish Lux's lack of speed and durability. I have lost mid lane to... no joke... a Jarvan mid, who built hydra first froze lane near his tower and just all-ined me with his flag pull every time I came out to even ATTEMPT to farm. Just don't pick tanky people who are easy to kite like Darius unless someone else on your team has the hard engage to start the fight so you can waddle in.

In short, give the meta time to shift and she'll fade back to normal. Her counters aren't popular picks right now and nearly everything is going her way in terms of normal team comps and how people play the game. Either you can DARE to break the meta and play different champs and comps than the ones everyone else is playing... or you can just try to abuse her weaknesses as best you can until the meta shifts and she's not longer in such an ideal spot. Or the old fail-safe way to get better... play a few Lux games and see what people do that gives you a hard time. The easiest way to learn how to beat a champion is to play them and learn their weaknesses.

Try it, and good luck!

Bla bla bla.Lux is op and this is real.Nice effort.But invalid.

The Whamboozler3 votes

Not making a single counter point or refuting anything just makes it very obvious how much of this attitude you have is based on anything. If you can't respond to the discussion with anything more than THAT, you've pretty much made my point.

Thanks.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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Not making a single counter point or refuting anything just makes it very obvious how much of this attitude you have is based on anything. If you can't respond to the discussion with anything more than THAT, you've pretty much made my point.

Thanks.

Don't cry.

The Whamboozler3 votes

They're tears of laughter, I assure you.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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They're tears of laughter, I assure you.

Nice joke.I didn't laugh.

The Whamboozler3 votes

It's ok. I'm laughing enough for both of us.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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It's ok. I'm laughing enough for both of us.

Continue but elsewhere.

The Whamboozler3 votes

Ok, I'm done. You are a funny, angry little man. Or woman maybe? I dunno.

Either way, I decided to read the rest of the replies to this post and a full HALF of them are from you basically just saying the exact same thing. You've got your fingers in your ears and are just yelling "la la la la la Lux OP la la la freelo". Logic, reason and debate are clearly not things that will happen here with you, so I'm just gonna go. Trying to explain anything to a brick wall isn't a very good use of my time. I don't know how badly you've lost to Lux in the past to bring on this massive, stubborn hate but I'm gonna look you up, probably laugh one more time and move on with my life.

I suggest you do the same.

Iceember5 votes

I see your clickbait and raise you one downvote.

Dukues3 votes

I don't get these posts. I feel she is fairly easy to play against. Granted, once she gets going its hard to stop her. But why all of a sudden? She has been the same champ for many seasons? People just saw her played in the lcs and were "holy shit who is this lux person"? like honestly wtf?

Mecha MaIphite3 votes

failed upvote bait

The Whamboozler2 votes

You can all stop guys, the OP is a stubborn troll poster and is level 4. Either a smurf or just a newb. If you want a real discussion of Lux, probably best to move to another topic where sanity is a thing that exists.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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You can all stop guys, the OP is a stubborn troll poster and is level 4. Either a smurf or just a newb. If you want a real discussion of Lux, probably best to move to another topic where sanity is a thing that exists.

I said my comments other topic.You trolled my title.You accept.

The Whamboozler2 votes

I honestly have NO IDEA what you're trying to say here dude. Your english needs work. I don't really care to figure it out either since I've noticed you're literally just going to every lux post on the forums and spamming poorly-written hate for the champion. And from a troll account?

You clearly have WAY too much free time.

Dukues1 votes

She also has long cooldowns and eats mana. Ever heard of Zed Talon Fizz Diana. What is wrong with players? I mean.. I will keep rolling her mid and hope to play vs you poor saps. I also do not mind playing vs lux as its not too big of a deal.

blfUvZ8Ybu2 votes

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She also has long cooldowns and eats mana. Ever heard of Zed Talon Fizz Diana. What is wrong with players? I mean.. I will keep rolling her mid and hope to play vs you poor saps. I also do not mind playing vs lux as its not too big of a deal.

Long cooldowns.Loool.Lux main.25 sn ult and long cooldowns :)

LF Annie1 votes

wrong numbers baitster, lux at 45%cdr is only 40 sec cd.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=LF Annie,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hilL6kGE,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2016-02-04T20:06:46.298+0000)

wrong numbers baitster, lux at 45%cdr is only 40 sec cd.

40 sn? You learn this game.Hahahaha.45% cdr and 40 second.Your dream?

LF Annie2 votes

its not lower than 30 seconds, of that im sure. now go master-BAIT elsewhere.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=LF Annie,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hilL6kGE,comment-id=00050000000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-04T20:34:16.100+0000)

its not lower than 30 seconds, of that im sure. now go master-BAIT elsewhere.

You learn this game kid.Lower than 30 seconds.

LF Annie2 votes

maybe i just dont find lux troublesome because i don't get hit. #years of dodging skilshots.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=LF Annie,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hilL6kGE,comment-id=0005000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-04T20:48:54.028+0000)

maybe i just dont find lux troublesome because i don't get hit. #years of dodging skilshots.

Dodging skillshots.Looool.Undodgeable e and ult.Bad excuse.

LF Annie2 votes

get better ping pleb, you can dodge anything at 10 ping.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=LF Annie,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hilL6kGE,comment-id=000500000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-04T20:50:12.673+0000)

get better ping pleb, you can dodge anything at 10 ping.

10 ping.Nice lie.I repeat undodgeable e and ult.

LF Annie1 votes

if it was not dodge-able wouldn't it be point/click? #gocryelsewhere

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=LF Annie,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hilL6kGE,comment-id=00050000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-04T20:57:43.633+0000)

if it was not dodge-able wouldn't it be point/click? #gocryelsewhere

Nice protecting op champions.

LF Annie2 votes

i really don't see your problem with lux, i dont play lux, i play talon, ezreal, ashe, ekko, kindred, elise, teemo, fizz, lulu, morg, naut, annie, braum, renekton, caitlyn, sivir, gnar, thresh, kat, and until recently, graves, morde, and poppy.

i have not had trouble playing against lux in four seasons of playing this game, and until i do, ima keep downvoting threads QQing about her, for fear of losing the elo i would gain beating people playing her.

LF Annie1 votes

what "secret" buffs? the ones in the patch notes? the ones available for everyone to know about during the time it takes for the patch to download?

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=LF Annie,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hilL6kGE,comment-id=00050000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000002,timestamp=2016-02-04T21:23:21.223+0000)

what "secret" buffs? the ones in the patch notes? the ones available for everyone to know about during the time it takes for the patch to download?

6/11 8/21 9/30 PBE Update.Secret but overbuffs.

LF Annie1 votes

all of which were in patch notes, which makes them public.

Lord Azır2 votes

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She also has long cooldowns and eats mana. Ever heard of Zed Talon Fizz Diana. What is wrong with players? I mean.. I will keep rolling her mid and hope to play vs you poor saps. I also do not mind playing vs lux as its not too big of a deal.

You want long cooldowns? Evelynn ultimate is 150 seconds or 2 and a half minutes at rank 1.

Dukues2 votes

[{quoted}](name=L0RD AZIR,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hilL6kGE,comment-id=00050001,timestamp=2016-02-04T19:41:55.143+0000)

You want long cooldowns? Evelynn ultimate is 150 seconds or 2 and a half minutes at rank 1.

she is also invisible. Always...........................

Lord Azır2 votes

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she is also invisible. Always...........................

Actually shes not invisible while taking jungle camps, while using her speed boost (which is the fastest way to get around) or when she gets even remotely close to an enemy.

Dukues2 votes

No Shit? Since When?

#Sarcasm.

Lord Azır2 votes

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No Shit? Since When?

#Sarcasm.

Well then do you just not know how to play the game? If you can't spot an Eve just stay to bots my friend.

The Deckowner1 votes

lux's e got a "qol" change which is pretty stupid.and allow her e to detonate at the same exact moment it actually lands, making it barely dodgeable.

and e+aa= free thunderlord proc

Xenomancers1 votes

lots of champions spells just automatically hit stuff when they hit them - like ahri...gragas got this same treatment - why should people with less than perfect ping not be able to play a champion to the max?

Lord Azır2 votes

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lots of champions spells just automatically hit stuff when they hit them - like ahri...gragas got this same treatment - why should people with less than perfect ping not be able to play a champion to the max?

Ahri doesn't have a huge AoE bomb with a slow though [slayer-jinx-unamused]

The Deckowner2 votes

ahri's w is a sibgle targetd ability which does not have any cc effect, gragas's q has a short ranged and small aoe and doesnt slow unless it is proc.

while lux's e has a very long range, very large aoe, has an aoe slow and does much more dmg than two listed above.

lux mains stop defending lux the entire board thinks the "QOL" is just a indirect buff.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Deckowner,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hilL6kGE,comment-id=000600010002,timestamp=2016-02-04T21:22:02.547+0000)

ahri's w is a sibgle targetd ability which does not have any cc effect, gragas's q has a short ranged and small aoe and doesnt slow unless it is proc.

while lux's e has a very long range, very large aoe, has an aoe slow and does much more dmg than two listed above.

lux mains stop defending lux the entire board thinks the "QOL" is just a indirect buff.

True.Congratulations!

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