Yorick Mourning Mist (E) slow increased from 30% at all ranks to 30/40/50/60/70%
a 70% slow for 2 seconds that doesn't decay, doesn't this seem a little much to you? this is going to make some of his winning matchups even more lopsided, lol
oSEXYPLATYPUSo11 votesi played yorick won lane, smashed turrets got rift, drakes and everything else and super pushed... had no clue what i was doing... i won though
Big Lincoln9 votesi dont think any of us know what we're doing, we just kinda push lanes until we win
oSEXYPLATYPUSo23 voteshave you seen the chart of his win rate over game length... at 25 mins it drops harder then the stock market of the great depression
Big Lincoln8 votesthat's cos he can't summon ghouls without hitting minions for 10 seconds late game, put some grave spawns on his W so that late game he can resummon them after they instadie from the ADC
or make them tankier so that the time he spends building them up actually rewards him
oSEXYPLATYPUSo11 votesanother rework i think was cool in concept but failed on execution
i like old yorick
and old galio
and i miss my fukin maokai !!!
[zombie-nunu-tears]
SteelMankind6 votesI disagree. Yorick rework is definitely better than what most players think; it's just not good in D1/Master/Challenger elo and so no one plays it. He has the perfect kit for destroying low elo melee top laners, and has tremendous splitpush pressure especially when combined with Rift herald.
The ghouls and maiden not being directly controlable is a nod to Yorick's antagonistic relationship with them, and also allows for them to be MUCH more powerful than similar summoned minions (Malzahar). W is a fun skill, and is pretty OP in teamfights with a lot of CDR.
His VO is also top notch.
Critmaster Garen2 votes[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hfLRRgny,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-07-15T01:17:31.529+0000)
i played yorick won lane, smashed turrets got rift, drakes and everything else and super pushed... had no clue what i was doing... i won though
thats how he rolls. he wins lane and snowballs turrets off it.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesit was boring game play to me.. .i was vs nasus , yorick is listed to counter nasus ... so i gave it ago...
now coming from someone who mains maokai i fnd yorick boring and non interactive that kinda has to be bad
Critmaster Garen7 votes[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hfLRRgny,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2017-07-15T01:42:58.765+0000)
it was boring game play to me.. .i was vs nasus , yorick is listed to counter nasus ... so i gave it ago...
now coming from someone who mains maokai i fnd yorick boring and non interactive that kinda has to be bad
i find him one of the more fun and interesting juggs. how is he non interactive?
you play around dodging his e and his w. you absuse his windows of weakness between ghoul summons.
SEKAI1 votes[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hfLRRgny,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-07-15T01:17:31.529+0000)
i played yorick won lane, smashed turrets got rift, drakes and everything else and super pushed... had no clue what i was doing... i won though
Must be a true calling.
I played (the new) Yorick lost lane and fed first blood. Got my turrets smashed by the enemy laner within the first few minutes. Got super pushed and I fed and I fed again... had no clue what I was doing too... and I lost HARD.
My teammates then told me to either uninstall the game or never play Yorick ever again. I haven't touched him since.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesi had a yorick legit go 0-9 in lane last night and feed the TROLL 
i dont know wtf he was building as yorick he rushed sunfire cape. and then was going into 
DragonShea1 votes[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hfLRRgny,comment-id=000100020001,timestamp=2017-07-15T18:20:02.352+0000)
i had a yorick legit go 0-9 in lane last night and feed the TROLL
That Yorick is a retard. Yorick Always rushes 
before he gets tanky. He got enough wave clear to not need sunfire.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesi agree ... maybe he was new i dont know...
when i play him last i rushed 
then built 
was all i had cuz i ended the game before i needed or could get more items
i know tri is a great item but i like the mana/armor cdr aoe slow of iceborn
DragonShea1 votes[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hfLRRgny,comment-id=00010002000100000000,timestamp=2017-07-15T18:33:15.225+0000)
i agree ... maybe he was new i dont know...
when i play him last i rushed
i know tri is a great item but i like the mana/armor cdr aoe slow of iceborn
Each to their own.
Ðelofasht1 votesThat Yorick is a retard. Yorick Always rushes
Actually the best first buy against Trundle is something with Grevious Wounds, Bramble Vest or Executioners, then either a pure AD item or something else. Do not follow the guides telling you Trinity is a must, and maybe I am just a Platinum Idiot. . . What do I know. Nearly anything can work, winning or losing against a matchup is more often about the decisions of positioning in your lane and how often you get banked than what you build.
Ðelofasht1 votesActually the best first buy against Trundle is something with Grevious Wounds, Bramble Vest or Executioners, then either a pure AD item or something else. Do not follow the guides telling you Trinity is a must, and maybe I am just a Platinum Idiot. . . What do I know. Nearly anything can work, winning or losing against a matchup is more often about the decisions of positioning in your lane and how often you get ganked than what you build.
Sir Fuzzi8 votesBut does it help his unfavorable matchups? I feel like a 70% slow is just punishing matchups he already wins against.
Ben Sharpio3 votes70 percent is retarded i don't care what you say.... It's too much.
Sir Fuzzi2 votesI don't disagree, I think 70% non-decaying for 2 seconds is kind of crazy. But my point was that this doesn't affect anything Yorick does-- bad matchups are still probably bad. Good matchups are just better now.
I think making his E-W into such a powerful combo now is dangerous, though, he was kinda perfect before where he had clear tells and opportunities on both sides.
SanKakU1 votesYeah it should give the enemy bonus armor and magic resist and let them damage versus basic attacks for the duration.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo7 voteshowever ... with the buffs to the slow might make him into "supportrick "
Ariel the Cruel5 votesI already run him support. The low CD Jarven ult and free Zz'Rot portal are nothing to scoff at. XD
Ivern and Irelia1 voteshes such a strong support. but recently i discovered that hes just as strong as adc.
Ariel the Cruel1 voteshes just as strong as adc.
I'd have to disagree on that one, unfortunately. He can push lanes and takes objectives just as well, but he lacks their safety, general damage out-put, and late-game scaling. Unless you're taking a structure, an ADC will almost always be better (in a vacuum).
Rick Yiordan6 votesagreed it should be 100% slow smh riot doesnt know how to balance these thingS
Darkdemon6536 votesIt will certainly make getting hit by E very punishing, as his W will be unavoidable without a dash or blink, though I imagine that's the point.
With that said, his ghoul damage was reduced in the most recent patch, so I'm OK with it.
Big Lincoln3 votesRiot didn't even know what his ghoul damage was when they changed it, that's why it's so fucked right now
and it's already pretty punishing, considering it also speeds him up when running @ you. if he needs more buffs i would rather see him given more ghoul summoning out of lane
GGLineaR5 votesIt's reparations for his lack of skin releases.
Mordemir4 votesThis will actually make E max better in certain matchups.
Most Yorick's I know max W second.
BobaFlautist3 votesNot that I've played against, as, or with a Yorick in a very long time, but isn't his E really hard to hit on anyone that's not already cced?
Especially late-game when everyone's dashes and speedups are on much shorter cds.
Hexs Fortune4 votesNot that I've played against, as, or with a Yorick in a very long time, but isn't his E really hard to hit on anyone that's not already cced?
Especially late-game when everyone's dashes and speedups are on much shorter cds.
This is true.
Also, since they are trying to make him more late game oriented he could use better scaling.
30 percent AD ghouls, 40 percent AD Q isn't much
Ariel the Cruel3 votesPatch 7.16
Ghouls now have have 75% AD ratio and their base health tripled.
To compensate, they are now destroyed by funny looks from other champions. ;p
doubleguac3 votesMost people level E last, so it shouldn't matter too much in lane, where Yorick is already strong enough. Although, IDK, maybe I'll start leveling it second with this buff.
Seems like a very nice late game buff. Even after the ultimate changes, Yorick still feels pretty lackluster late game. Which is probably fair, since he's incredibly strong mid-game. But if Riot is trying to buff his late game, this strikes me as a good way to do it.
That being said, I hope Riot waits a bit to see how the last changes panned out before buffing Yorick again. I'm the first to admit he can be annoying/oppressive to lane against in certain situations. He has niche appeal and isn't very flashy. it's exactly the kind of champion that Riot would be quick to nerf hard if he ever got overtuned and went FotM.
EDIT: his really lopsided matchups are all against people who can't dash out of his wall. Against those champions, leveling wall second is likely still going to be the way to go. It's obviously a huge buff, but I don't necessarily think it will worsen the situations where Yorick can already be oppressive. I do think it will help a lot against champions who can dash out of his wall, but can't permakite him when that dash in on CD.
BlackFlux2 votesI mean, 
exists. nobody looks at him, but with 45% CDR his E can become a 99% slow with .5 second in-betweens
MistroTTC2 votesI would like it if it had an effect like poppy's W for enemies trapped in it, where it blocks one dash attempt but you can still flash out and it only works if you are in it when it rises.
DragonShea1 votesI would like it if it had an effect like poppy's W for enemies trapped in it, where it blocks one dash attempt but you can still flash out and it only works if you are in it when it rises.
same here.
TotalJerk2 votesJust let him be able to fight without his maiden.
Overlord Forte2 votesThere's no reason to max Yorick E second, his wall is better in all scenarios except the most stupidly lost ones (where E has to be used for ranged farming).
While I'm on the fence about this, giving his E more meaningful level up power options may give him some diversity in his options.
Shadòw2 votesi'm no Yorick main, but doesn't he skill Q first?
so when he starts to max his E lane phase should be over already anyway.
AmenPerson2 votesI miss old Yorick. Old Yorick was fun. Because no one knew how to play against him. I've carried games as that Yorick. Granted can still carry with this Yorick, but he doesn't feel as fun.
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesyorick isn't weak. tbh. I cannot beat yorick as darius. which is okay. but anyway. what am trying to say. yorick isn't weak
imo yorick is stronger than any juggernaut top lane. and easily shits on tanks. hes pretty damn strong.
GelsominoKiller2 votesYes... And then lane phase ends and Yorick stops having a function.
He can't teamfight for his kit simply doesn't have the tools to survive nor deal damage. This leaves endless splitting as the only option. Later in the game he can't really play the sidelane game as he has no 1v1 potential, no dive potential, nor he shines particularly well at pushing and tower taking. His splitting can even be easily contained by any tank as it is tied to his ghouls that die very quickly.
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesnot many melees can team fight anyway. at least hes tanky.
GelsominoKiller1 votesHe has no tank steroids, damage reduction nor heals. He isn't even that tanky by himself. He can't take damage effectively, he can't deal damage effectively.
Ðelofasht1 votesIn this proposed buff, it would in fact help a ton against matchups where the enemies have multiple dashes, and really does not make the matchups he already shines in much different really. The question is whether it solves anything in team fighting situations which is where everyone feels he needs to most help, and I do not believe it really does.
The major weakness is in his mistwalkers dying during a fight and then Yorick basically being done for the fight. This is highlighted by the fact that his only reliable way of getting mistwalkers is his ultimate, which he can at least use every teamfight now. No other champion is so restricted in when they can be useful in fights, they have cooldown a for abilities and can use them to good effect, but if Yorick does not have mistwalkers then really he only has one skill, Q, as his E tickles the enemy late, and the wall is either ignored with dashes or killed instantly by multiple enemies.
If they want to fix the issues, he needs either more mistwalker production in mid to late game for teamfights, or making them take multiple auto attacks to destroy as the game progresses, linked to level or ranks in W or R.
Tobias Brackner1 votesYorick does plenty of damage w/o Mistwalkers. The Lady alone is a big damage boost for him.
In terms of dashes and his wall that's just a meta thing (also put them in the wall after they burn the dash)
AirKingNeo1 votesIt's almost as if Yorick is super weak and only good in low elo.
Maybe huge buffs are warranted, which they are.
Big Lincoln1 votesyou just have to be good at him, lol
AirKingNeo1 votesNo, not really. One of the best Yoricks (I think the only Yorick in Diamond 1+?), Hashinshin, literally is saying these current buffs (this patch we're on) does barely anything and his ultimate has way too large of a cooldown.
Legit Riven shits on Yorick just be doing her standard combo.
Doozku2 votesHashinshin barely plays Yorick. There are several Yorick mains in places like OCE who say that he's fine, you just gotta be good at hin.