I've always hated Vi's ultimate.
Can we make it an enhanced auto instead of a targeted ultimate so that at least she has to ram you in the face to use it?
Can we make it an enhanced auto instead of a targeted ultimate so that at least she has to ram you in the face to use it?
"can we please gut this champion because jimmy doesn't like them?"
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"can we please gut this champion because jimmy doesn't like them?"
How is this a gutting? It doesn't change her damage, it doesn't change her ability, it just makes her actually have to do something herself instead of press an "instant win" button vs the champion she ults.
How is this a gutting? It doesn't change her damage, it doesn't change her ability, it just makes her actually have to do something herself instead of press an "instant win" button vs the champion she ults.
Should probably Nerf malzahar then too, can't have any champs with point and click lock down ults. And ryzes rune prism. And malakais twisted advance. And you know what, right clicking is too easy for ADCs, let's make them "actually have to do something" too. 100% skill shots for everything.
Should probably Nerf malzahar then too, can't have any champs with point and click lock down ults. And ryzes rune prism. And malakais twisted advance. And you know what, right clicking is too easy for ADCs, let's make them "actually have to do something" too. 100% skill shots for everything.
I've already suggested Malzahar get an Amumu wide grounding null zone that he didn't have to channel, which would feel better for both Malz players AND people playing against Malz, but aside from that, Malz has to channel, and you can QSS it, Ryze has to now use his essence flux(and again it's not a "you're dead" button), and Maokai's twisted advance doesn't actually lock you down long enough to guarantee a kill nearly every time(in fact he pushes you away from him directly after AND he has to be practically in your face to use it). Vi ult is literally a "push to win" button compared to any of those, especially from how long a distance she can use it. As for ADCs, we're talking about the insane lockdown that this ult provides, not damage in general.
That's like, the dumbest thing you could do to the ability. She already has an enhanced auto attack.
Have you tried not playing Vi?
[{quoted}](name=Unstoppable Monk,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hbBFA26f,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-09-10T00:28:12.386+0000)
Have you tried not playing Vi?
I don't play Vi, I hate her ultimate because of it's inability to be dodged. Making it an enhanced auto attack would AT LEAST make it so that she has to get up in your face to use it, rather than just clicking on someone and being teleported there because magic. I've always hated her as a champion for this one ability that's undodgeable, offers enough CC for her to lock you down in a teamfight, leads to pretty much a guaranteed kill on the person she ults, and the fact that she can actually kill you herself after ulting with no one around because you lost half your HP before you could even fight her back. The undodgeable part is the main problem though. She needs some unreliability in her kit.
Try playing vi first and then we will talk. Her only gap close is a charge-up dash. And if it’s interrupted or dodged she literally has nothing else -not even steroids or innate tankiness to survive. She’s a seriously underwhelming champion and not even close to a top tier jungler right now.
hated her as a champion for this one ability that's undodgeable. The undodgeable part is the main problem though. She needs some unreliability in her kit.
Stopwatch is literally free. Maybe instead of being a noob that thinks they know something, consider learning how to play because you can't seem to even be good at one champion.
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Stopwatch is literally free. Maybe instead of being a noob that thinks they know something, consider learning how to play because you can't seem to even be good at one champion.
Except it's not, and even when it is(with the rune), she could ult you probably 4 times before you actually get it.
Try playing vi first and then we will talk. Her only gap close is a charge-up dash. And if it’s interrupted or dodged she literally has nothing else -not even steroids or innate tankiness to survive. She’s a seriously underwhelming champion and not even close to a top tier jungler right now.
I understand this, and I'm not saying to not buff her as compensation, but the problem is her lockdown is too strong and too free. Anyone she ults is pretty much dead unless you zhonya's, and sometimes zhonya's doesn't even help you because of other things going on(your allies decide to back off and let you die anyways, whatnot). She should have some unreliability, because it kinda sucks coming back to lane just to be ulted under tower again and again.
Vi mains say the same thing about Lulu's ult, I'm sure
Vi mains say the same thing about Lulu's polymorph, I'm sure
FTFY
Amen
out of all the thing to complain about... this is certainly a new one.
there are a over 109 champions that need LARGE bnalance changes and about 30 more that needs small ones... i wouldnt never have even considered putting
on that list.
literally once of the most balanced champions in the game right now...
out of all the thing to complain about... this is certainly a new one.
there are a over 109 champions that need LARGE bnalance changes and about 30 more that needs small ones... i wouldnt never have even considered putting
on that list.
literally once of the most balanced champions in the game right now...
Her ultimate has always been a problem to me. I just rarely see her and when I do it reminds me of how ridiculous an ability like that is. It doesn't matter if she's balanced around it, it's not fun to have her ult you every time you come out of lane before zhonya's, and by that point she's either got someone fed or got fed herself. I don't think there's an ult I've ever died to more than a Vi ult, and that even includes Malzahar's(even though I rarely see her).
Nautilus' is similar, but it gives you more time to get away from him and find a way out of the situation.