Thankfully Sated Devourer didn't existed at the patch 5.2

YumaS2Astral··9 votes·818 views

That was the patch where Fizz Seastone Trident was changed to deal the missing health damage on-hit with the active part instead of dealing it over time with the passive part.

If Sated Devourer existed at time, Fizz would probably be the most obnoxious champion in the game. He would be like Master Yi, but much tankier, and with the ability to dash through walls. Fizz would be literally permabanned and would probably have to be hotfixed.

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Lugg5 votes

I actually wish it had existed so Fizz would have received a Kassadin level rework and we wouldn't have to deal with him anymore.

YumaS2Astral2 votes

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I actually wish it had existed so Fizz would have received a Kassadin level rework and we wouldn't have to deal with him anymore.

Remember that Kassadin actually remained OP for a few patches, even after his rework. He just wasn't a god that could carry games alone anymore, but he was still very strong. This is so true that he had to be nerfed more times.

It is sad to think of this and then remember that the current Kassadin is so... underwhelming. He is just a shadow of his former self.

Lugg2 votes

Yes, he is a shadow of his former self, but you can still win games with him. That shows how stupid OP he was.

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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**Yes, he is a shadow of his former self, but you can still win games with him. **That shows how stupid OP he was.

Well, that basically applies to any champion, though...

There isn't any champion that ensures that you will win or lose. Even the old Kassadin wasn't a guaranteed victory. If you used him and you were good with him, however, you would probably have a lot more chance to win when compared to every other champion, which is why he was nerfed.

The fact that you can still win games with him doesn't show how OP he was. It doesn't mean anything. Even the champion with the lowest win rate (according to lolking.net, that is Azir) can still win games, especially if you are good with him.

Stars Shaper1 votes

Well if it happened they might have nerfed Fizz instead and to a point where he would be less nasty than today xD

A Miss Fortune1 votes

They pulled another Fizz on Fizz himself anyways.

Nerf him, just to buff him to lessen the whole point of nerfing him to begin with.

Alpharite1 votes

Because AP Fizz was hit way too hard with those nerfs. When an AP Assassin is only viable as an AD Bruiser, you know you fucked up.

A Miss Fortune1 votes

What?

They made AD Fizz unviable I guess, and then buffed his AP ratios a bit to compensate. For all I care they can make AD and AP Fizz unviable because he won't ever be a healthy champion with his current kit.

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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What?

They made AD Fizz unviable I guess, and then buffed his AP ratios a bit to compensate. For all I care they can make AD and AP Fizz unviable because he won't ever be a healthy champion with his current kit.

AD Fizz is still viable. However, he is now a lot more balanced. I actually like the fact that he was nerfed now because now people stopping playing him and now I can enjoy the fact that people understimate him.

Ecodeath1 votes

overtime dmg doesnt stack

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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overtime dmg doesnt stack

That's why Fizz would be stupidly overpowered at this time with Sated Devourer. The missing health damage wasn't over time, it was on-hit. So with Sated Devourer he could apply it twice on every two attacks.

Ecodeath1 votes

oh. my bad

Only Play Darius1 votes

Ahh, good old days of 5.2 on-hit Fizz. Oh man, that build was almost as horrible as S4 AP Fizz that the mini rework was supposed to be fixing.

junglerboy161 votes

He would be just like Shyvana!

Oh wait, we still have Shyvana running around building tanky and dealing a metric ton of % health magic damage. Quite Frankly, Sated Devourer Shyvana is worse than Sated Devourer Fizz would ever have been.

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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He would be just like Shyvana!

Oh wait, we still have Shyvana running around building tanky and dealing a metric ton of % health magic damage. Quite Frankly, Sated Devourer Shyvana is worse than Sated Devourer Fizz would ever have been.

No, because there are two things that Fizz have and Shyvana doesn't, that would make Sated AD Fizz much worse:

  1. His Playful/Trickster. It allows Fizz to outplay, to escape easily, to dash through walls, and to dodge skills that are otherwise undodgeable such as Karthus' ult and Syndra's ult. Shyvana can't do that. She has to burn her ult to dash through walls and she can't become untargetable.

  2. Hard CC. Well, Shyvana has a knockback with her ult, but its hitbox is wonky. Fizz, on other hand, is guaranteed to knockup anyone with this ult. It also doesn't require Fizz to jump at his enemies.

I will not argue whether Shyvana is currently OP or not, but 5.2 Fizz would certainly be much more powerful than current Shyvana.

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