[Poll] Do you still buy thornmail after the changes?

Yimmortal·Oct 1, 2015·2 votes·542 views

I want to get a consensus on how people feel about thornmail getting changed from 30% damage reflect to 15% plus 25% bonus armor. Personally I think its a piece of shit now. The damage reflection isn't even noticeable until you have a late game build rocking 300+ plus armor and even then, there are better options for a 6th item (warmog, frozen heart, etc.) since all that armor is gonna get shredded anyways late game by lw +bc I only find myself building thormmail against one of those 4 ad team these days and I've noticed that I don't see thornmail as much in my games anymore. How much do you use thornmail now compared to before the changes?

6 Comments

Maximum MordeOct 1, 20152 votes

I still buy it but am nowhere near as satisfied.

EpicusmaximoOct 1, 20151 votes

It was too strong against AD champs. When I can build a TM and auto win fights, it needed a nerf...and I loved the damn thing.

PiVoRxOct 1, 20152 votes

Thornmail was doing nothing unless enemy was pure ad, now its useless since every top laner has true damage, and since it scales with your armor it has no use for non-tanks.

Maximum MordeOct 1, 20151 votes

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It was too strong against AD champs. When I can build a TM and auto win fights, it needed a nerf...and I loved the damn thing.

Last whisper and black cleaver are too strong against tank champs. When I can build last whisper and wreck anyone I please it needs a nerf, and I love the damn thing.

The FastOct 1, 20151 votes

Thornmail is now a 5th or 6th item against teams with 4 AD threats or 2-3 heavy AA threats, unless playing Rammus or Malphite.

Its not useless, but it sure as hell is a lot less useful. I feel like maybe there should be some healing reduction active on it for like 4s or something, because it just feels really bad right now. Considering you need 600 bonus armor to even out with old thornmail against late game adcs, maybe they could make the ratio 20% of the auto's damage instead of 15% without making the item ridiculous again.