Cait And The Bound To Fail PBE Changes.

Rainfall·Sep 17, 2017·18 votes·1,205 views

it looks like riot has some plans for her in the pbe but again theyre trying to balance caitlyn with her damage relying on her traps,riot needs to understand that this will further divide the playstyle between high and low elo players and will eventualy cause caitlyn to be nerfed again and again for pro players and go back to the 45%winrate she is right now. I think i speak for everyone when i say that champions becoming PRO-exclusive is a horrible balance concept, the last thing the game needs is a ryze 2.0 that will be nerfed to the ground for faker to not waste a ban on. diversity in marksmen has heavily dropped the past patches with twitch and tristana rising in the meta after all other adcs received nerfs. I believe that the only way to fix caitlyn is to make her kit revolve around working with her passive again. source: http://www.surrenderat20.net/2017/09/913-pbe-update.html

16 Comments

HupsisSep 17, 20178 votes

"I believe that the only way to fix caitlyn is to make her kit revolve around item 3085 working with her passive again."

Never again pls...

RainfallSep 17, 2017

Always again pls... i think youve just linked the interaction to a time when cait was op.

VeltoxSep 17, 20175 votes

Because we need a Twitch that can keep you hostage at tower.

Wildlife1Sep 17, 20171 votes

There is already 2 of those, I dont need another one

KoKobotoSep 17, 20174 votes

Caitlyn needs a VGU. She's supposed to be a detective but looks like a damn clown. Rito has talked about Caitlyn a lot on the past but they just suddenly stopped.

RainfallSep 17, 20175 votes

i dont realy know about that,caitlyn is most probably not going to get a VGU at least not any time soon,riot has tried a lot of diferent versions for her headshots with her last major changes before the current ones being at the end of season 5-preseason 6

BALDG1VEN BOOMERSep 17, 20173 votes

The champion is literally trash right now but still saw competitive play in playoffs, or at least in NA. So speaks a lot about her.

RainfallSep 17, 20171 votes

well the reason she got nerfed was because of the LCS,the last nerf she received she was at 48% winrate in solo queue when she received it,that is the point of this post to stop this from happening,to narrow the gap between pro and non pro players,im not talking about making the champion easier im talking about making the champions damage less connected with her W.

BALDG1VEN BOOMERSep 17, 20173 votes

Probably won't happen since her kit offers too much safety while being able to shove in lanes and punish them under tower, her scaling has dropped since the nerfs but it was also one of the other reason why she was so strong being relevant at all stages of the game with long range with RFC.

If she's going to be a lane bully fine, but she has to have some weaknesses during other stages of the game other than "her win rate dips during mid game", It's even tough to siege against her because she can easily set up anti seige traps and stall out the game.

RainfallSep 17, 20171 votes

the weakness champions like caitlyn have in the mid-lategame is that they dont have attack speed steroids,you see twitch with 2 attack speed items and infinity coming out of stealth 2.5 attack speed,tristana uses q same. jinx with her machine gun same. caitlyn does not have that. and trust me 0.6-0.9 attack speed in the late game is a lot in terms of dps.thats why caitlyn falls off.

BALDG1VEN BOOMERSep 17, 20171 votes

Was talking about pre nerf

JorenciceSep 17, 20173 votes

Make the sniper resolve around using a tri shot shotgun?

If anything they should do something like nova from HoTS where she has like .4 attack speed but hits like a fucking truck like harder than 6 item build draven truck.

But then they made jhin who's a better sniper...

GayFluffyUnicornSep 17, 20172 votes

Yeah nova is actually something i could imagine for caitlyn but then they made jhin lul. Kinda what caitlyn should have been.

KaìjuSep 17, 20172 votes

Honestly I think the issue stems from how they clarify marksmen. They had those nifty subclasses, but all marksmen were in one. They should split it up between casters, spell slingers, and shooters or something. Casters like Ez, Varus, and maybe Ashe as a sort of weird hybrid since her W goes to such a long cooldown with a long range kinda like they do. Spell slingers can be Corki, Lucian, Tristana, MF, people that need a spell to get their damage off rather than just attacking straight up, half casters. And then shooters can be your standard, "I have an attack steroid" auto attack based marksmen like Cait, Xayah, Ashe, Vayne, etc. Because they said that they see the different marksmen in the class as a whole, but separating them would make it much clearer what balance changes are for who.

RainfallSep 17, 20171 votes

i would divide marksmen by Ad casters and autoattack based , but for example varus was at the start of the season played with lethality as a q spammer (AD caster) now you see him mostly with on hit items (autoattack based) you cant rely put him in a subclass. ezreal's entire kit revolves around him spamming Q(ad caster) but his passive gives him attack speed marksmen are far from a linear class.