How is Ryze supposed to be a late game hypercarry?

YumaS2Astral··4 votes·2,146 views

Ryze was meant to be a late game hyperscaling "tanky" mage, yet he always end up being an early game lane bully.

Even after his rework, his kit still screams "lane bully" and that's proven by how strong he is during the early game, for what he gets late game.

Ironically I think that Ryze doesn't scale as well as he should be scaling. Last week, I was playing against a Ryze. He became really fed during the early game, nobody could 1x1 him except me but that was just because I was using Malzahar, and I could only 1x1 him with ult, otherwise he would kill be even if I were silenced - and once he got a QSS, not even myself could kill him.

However, once teamfights started to happen, all we had to do was to focus him and get all our CC on him. Due to Ryze's build, he was squishy and we could kill him easily.

It seems like Ryze is more of an early game AP mage that falls off late game, instead of a late game AP mage that is weak during the early. It seems like he falls off late game due to the fact that after the rework, Ryze is not allowed to build items that give more than 10% cooldown reduction. Well, you can still buy them, but you will waste stats. But most people still build him in such way that he becomes squishy and thus he can be focused and killed rather easily during late game.

I wonder how Ryze is supposed to be a late game champion, everytime he is changed, he ends up being the opposite of that.

4 Comments

Captain Aishi3 votes

replace every mention of Ryze with Cassiopeia and the thread is still 100% accurate... it's kinda hilarious

MealReadytoEat1 votes

Ryze is a mid game champ now. He hits peak power, relative to his opponents, once he finishes RoA and Seraphs in most games. Late game, the fact that he snares himself for one seconds for every rotation he does (and he does one every 1.2 seconds at 40% cdr) means he cant dodge any skill shots in team fights, and he just gets hooked/cc's and dies.

MealReadytoEat1 votes

Right now, Ryze can't be both balanced and healthy. His weakness are so severe (high mana cost, lots of down time on his passive, and most of all, the fact that his casting animations suppress him one second out of every 2 to 1.2 seconds (depending on cdr) during his skill spam) that he needs to be outrageously strong when he's able to play around his weakness while you arn't. Ryze's spell combo prevents him from moving, and unlike auto attacks he cant break away from casting them once he starts. Get a blitz, thresh, or someone else with a hard to hit skill shot cc and he will die in every fight right away. They just nerfed Ryze to the ground, if you are still having issues against him, try playing him a few games to understand his weakness. Ryze might still be broken, but he's one of the most underpowred champs right now.

My Name is Billa1 votes

Ryze is 38 percent shiet tier champion. Never seen a half decent ryze after the nerfs. Even soraka/tahm contributes more to the team then the piece of shiet who consumes resources and don't do any damage and insta die and feeds the enemy team.

Stupid thread. enough said.

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