AP/HP Items are too Strong

Unlucky47··3 votes·481 views

Now, before you instantly downvote the thread just because you like playing mages, let's actually consider how healthy these things are for the game. There is nothing to stop mages from building 2 or 3 items that give ap and health, and each item offers way too much.

Rylais is the biggest problem here. Not only does it give 400 health, but also 100 ap. I don't understand why riot hasn't fixed this because rylais is built on every single mage and it makes them impossible to fight against. Before you guys say anything about me just wanting it nerfed so i can kill mages, I play velkoz and nidalee. Velkoz is one of my favorite champions in this game, and not only is he too strong, but the items he builds are too strong.

Why is rylais a problem? Too much health. Too much ap. Too much utility. It is absolutely ridiculous that a mage can build rylais and get these kind of stats. I understand that rylais is a bit more expensive than other items, but it's one item that offers way to much. For all the slows and health that it gives, it needs to provide less ap. less ap and health. Ludens echo and Morello also give 100 ap and these are straight glass cannon burst type items, but rylais gives them that and 400 health on top of slows? I'm not saying nerf the slows or anything, just saying that the amount of ap and health it gives is ridiculous.

Some of you are probably thinking "what caused this" and honestly for me it's been a series of winning lane against midlane mages and then losing because they can burst down entire teams by themselves and not die because of how much health they have. I don't know if nerfing the items is all that we need but annie, sol, and brand are huge problems because you can't kill them while they're killing your entire team. As much as i hate syndra, at least she's single target damage. For a mage to have the ability to cc groups of people while killing most of them in seconds is just too much. And whenever I play assassins I just get to watch it all happen because I can't get in on a mage most of the time, but when I do it's over for me because my combo didnt kill them and their entire team is focusing me now.

Mages shouldnt be squishy like adcs and assassins, but they also shouldnt have as much health as tanks.

5 Comments

Handy Sandy 4 votes

Yea mages aren't tanky, they get 3k health at the most and that's someone like malzahar who is naturally tanky. If they were that strong why aren't tank mages spammed in pro play? Why is there even an adc role if mages really are that strong? They rely on their cc or flash to escape.

Unlucky471 votes

That's still alot of health for the amount of damage and utility they provide

Handy Sandy 1 votes

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That's still alot of health for the amount of damage and utility they provide

No it's really not, considering they have very little to no magic resist and armor.

Veigarisgod11 votes

health as tanks.

lol

Mages have to itemize for health, AP, CDR, mana regen, and magic pen. If you go item 3116 you don't have CDR, magic pen, or mana regen. If you go item 3165 then you need health and magic pen. If you go item 3151 then you need CDR and mana regen. Mage items have actual trade offs, yes item 3116 is a little too good right now, but definitely, DEFINITELY, not item 3151 . P.S. item 3027 takes 10 minutes to stack. when it's first bought it literally only has an 80% gold efficiency.

Unlucky471 votes

but have you seen mages that have built two or more of these items? itemizing is good and all but even if someone doesnt care to build other stats health and they get rewarded for it by being able to kill you and you can't fight back. Doesn't this seem like a problem at all? I'm not talking about someone that just built rylais, even if it is strong. I'm talking about the people that get rylais into rod, or liandrys. You can't fight that and thats the problem

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