So apparently you can run this comp:

SaltyToplaneGoat··2 votes·335 views

Top Vayne

Jungle Graves

Mid (AP Slave of your choice, mostly a mage with CC)

Bot Ashe

Bot2 MissFortune

But noo marksmen are still healthy when compared to all other classes and not the reason for any powercreep at all. No reeeeeally. Apparently Riot found marksmen so awesome, that seeing at least one per team every single game was not enough. Oh no! Now we can build entire teams out of them!

And then I hoped that maybe like this champs like Rammus, Malphite and Taric would become more popular, however given how armor penetration, crit and lifesteal go together...

Seriously, this is something that really needs to be fixed...

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Dukues5 votes

But seriously anything can work any game if you play it right. If your team losses to the team you listed above then your team is shit and got outplayed.

VoidStaresBack5 votes

Why bother with an AP slave when you can have Corki or Jhin mid?

Swiftstrike42 votes

Top Vayne isn't a thing outside of Silver elo. Any competent jungler shuts it down. I stopped seeing it completely after I no longer silver players in my games. So around Gold IV.

Weathered2 votes

I can also run the comp Aatrox Alistar Bard Heimerdinger Ziggs

Doesn't mean its going to be good....

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Or just run 5 Aatrox s lol.

Pierce The Veal2 votes

And then I take Amumu, rammus, malphite and lmao.

Kaioko1 votes

No Ezreal AP mid? And MF only works if the other team lacks gap closing and relies on poke.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

As I said, for this to work CC is preferred. But soon Riot, in their infinite wisdom, will buff adcs again so they don't even need that anymore.

And MF works as long as there is enough cc present, which will be with a mage mid and a Ashe/Varus as adc.

Kaioko1 votes

You're right MF support is obviously the best thing ever hence why everyone is playing it right now thanks to world.

We will just ignore the fact that her win rate has dropped from 54 to 48% since that stupid trend started and her win rate on support is between 43 and 44% :)

Dukues1 votes

Ezreal mid.

G4LLOWSC4L1BR4TR1 votes

Graves really isn't an ADC anymore, more of a mid ranged AD bruiser. MF support with Ashe is one specific gimmick, take any other support bot or pair her with anyone else and it'll fall apart. That said, I do agree with the premise that ADCs need something done about them. Honestly I think a lot of the issue is that assassins are so bad at the moment, and I'm hoping that the rework will help that, so I'd hold off on any actual balance changes with ADCs until we see what the assassin rework does to them.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

Well Kindred did get nerfed...

Mecha MaIphite1 votes

You have essentially two sources of hard CC, both of which are single target and one of which is on a minute-long cooldown. Aside from that, there's nothing stopping their front line from rolling over you, aside from a few measly slows.

Handy Sandy 1 votes

Nice, you have little to no hard engage and you're all pretty squishy. Tbh team comp doesn't even matter in ranked/normals, that's really only for competitive. If you lose, then you weren't good enough. If you won, it's not because you have a better comp. It's because you were the better players.

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

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Top Vayne

Jungle Graves

Mid (AP Slave of your choice, mostly a mage with CC)

Bot Ashe

Bot2 MissFortune

But noo marksmen are still healthy when compared to all other classes and not the reason for any powercreep at all. No reeeeeally. Apparently Riot found marksmen so awesome, that seeing at least one per team every single game was not enough. Oh no! Now we can build entire teams out of them!

And then I hoped that maybe like this champs like Rammus, Malphite and Taric would become more popular, however given how armor penetration, crit and lifesteal go together...

Seriously, this is something that really needs to be fixed...

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