Zed and Lux abuse TLD and get slaps on the wrist but Karthus and Swain get nerfed hard for DFT

KushDid420·3/9/2016, 8:15:37 PM·190 votes·8,457 views

What the absolute shit Riot.

You gut important parts of Swain and Karthus' kit which set up their spells because they "benefited greatly" from DFT.

Meanwhile, Zed and Lux, 2 HUGE abusers of TLD get nerfs on The wrong parts of their kits

You gut 2 hyperscaling champions because of a late game Keystone that does such shitty damage early but you let 2 oppressive champions have a strong enough early to shut these champions down before they can do shit and they STILL have the broken parts of their kits untouched.

Quit catering to the fanboys of these champs. I don't care if they sell the most skins, you want strategic diversity? Nerf these two shits that prevent anything like that and you may get more profit on a higher variety of champions.

156 Comments

Darkwind3/9/2016, 10:43:41 PM40 votes

I mean there are other champs that abuse TLD in the same was as lux. For example: Kha- Passive+Q=proc Ahri- W=proc, Q+Auto=proc Leblanc-Q+W=proc, E+auto=proc Anivia= Q+E=proc, E+R=proc, Q+auto=proc TF= E auto+ auto = proc, E auto + Q = proc Bard- Meep auto + q= proc, Q stun+ auto = proc

And then there are those that by these standards SHOULD be able to abuse it, but can't:

Sona passive auto only counts as 1 attack Anivia R counts as multiple hits, but other DoTs- Malz for example- don't. Ziggs passive auto counts as 1 attack

There are more. Riot's really bad at being consistent about this type of thing. Unclear whether these were deliberate choices or results of spaghetti.

Dominick Destine3/9/2016, 9:16:14 PM19 votes

I tend to agree, especially with Lux.

It makes no sense that Lux can trigger TLD with two hits but Sona needs three (Q, Auto, Auto , Lux only needs Q and auto).

RipReviveFkRito3/10/2016, 6:46:36 PM5 votes

Let's just agree to buff Karthus alright? #MakeMidGreatAgain item 3070 Karthus

EpikFeeder3/10/2016, 1:29:54 AM5 votes

Just stop. Be happy that Lee Sin isnt in every fking game these days. The last thing we need is Lee Sin throwing Q after Q until one hits on the right target, and we lose because of it.

SirHeavyScrotum3/10/2016, 1:51:20 AM4 votes

It's almost like they're different champions or something.

YuGiHo3/10/2016, 7:24:56 AM4 votes

Deathfire is so ass

MrWasjig3/10/2016, 10:40:38 AM3 votes

We can't have anything threatening to become popular that's not on Riot's approved champion list now, can we?

YossarianSensei3/10/2016, 8:01:59 AM2 votes

Lol everyone and their mother can easily abuse TLD, the mastery needs to be readdressed.

Swain and Karthus probably get dealt with because they're 'problem champs', once they get ahead there's very little anyone can do to them.

LegitBacon663/9/2016, 11:44:24 PM2 votes

what is TLD and DFT?

Final Spark Lux3/10/2016, 8:57:15 AM1 votes

I dont use thunderlords on lux. What now. (Im serious)