Just had a Draven build Gargoyle Stone Plate in a game....

VoraciousX·May 25, 2017·1 votes·773 views

He was already fed but I'd reached a late game build as well(in fact our whole team did except our Varus). couldn't one shot him as an assassin and no one else could kill him except for Veigar and whenever Veigar stunned him he'd QSS. There was no way to kill him. Is anything gonna be done about an ADC being able to build tanky while still two shotting everyone? I know it's only one tank item and one bruiser item but the Gargoyle Stone Plate forces you to 1v1 or 2v1 him without the whole team as otherwise it doubles his HP, and ADCs are usually with other people as well.

Side Note: PLEASE JUST DELETE Guardian Angel. This item is so friggin toxic to deal with as an assassin now that they get MORE damage AND have to die twice and are building it as early as 2-3 items.

11 Comments

MysterQMay 25, 20175 votes

Even when i play tank poppy with GS, i still feel wrecked. I cant imagine the very very short active is that strong.

SohleksMay 25, 20172 votes

For an ADC 4 seconds could be everything eleventy.

It sounds far out but it's possible it could have some relevance on ADC at the low cost of 2500g

... I did forget about the self induced damage reduction though... But it's still possible it could be lifesaving for them and that's enough

VoraciousXMay 25, 20171 votes

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For an ADC 4 seconds could be everything eleventy.

It sounds far out but it's possible it could have some relevance on ADC at the low cost of 2500g

... I did forget about the self induced damage reduction though... But it's still possible it could be lifesaving for them and that's enough

The self induced damage is ONLY when you use the active. Though to be honest I did forget the GSP's HP bonus was the active, was thinking it was the passive while the armor thing was the active, got it backwards. Also I've only played placements EVER and it's always been high silver I'm placed into. It was a normal game, however, but it doesn't change the fact that he was 2 shotting people with 160 MR and 80 armor.

As for it having relevance on other ADCs I'm not sure. I suppose it could replace GA since GA is an actual AD item now, giving them an instant 80 armor and MR in teamfights, throw in maw/QSS that's 160 MR and 80 armor(which is what this Draven had after selling GA because we popped it every time it was up and he had the gold) He also had death's dance so I could only do like 50% of his HP by the time he had those items before I popped, but if Draven doesn't get bursted he just destroys everyone so it was pretty impossible to deal with. I think this build could actually be strong on Draven though.

StealWolverineMay 25, 20173 votes

Gold draven main playing against bronzies. Not unexpected results.

GhostOfTsushimaMay 25, 20173 votes

Its because youre bronze and playing at bronze level so you think it work LMAO

KasonaADCMay 25, 20172 votes

I mean you can build some pretty weird stuff when you're draven and 5000 gold ahead of the most fed person on the enemy team.

Now if he was even in gold... that would be a completely different story.

VoraciousXMay 25, 20171 votes

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I mean you can build some pretty weird stuff when you're draven and 5000 gold ahead of the most fed person on the enemy team.

Now if he was even in gold... that would be a completely different story.

Everyone was full build aside from our ADC. The issue is he was still 2 shotting everyone except our jungler who he was 3-4 shotting despite him having over 2800 health, over 200 armor, locket, and ninja tabi passive while no one could kill him while he was building semi-tanky and I was an assassin going full damage items.

QuephaMay 25, 20172 votes

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Everyone was full build aside from our ADC.

Even then you're still talking about a full build adc against targets who were building completely glass cannon. At that point you're all making the choice to say "if a damage dealer hits me before I hit them, then you can kiss my ass goodbye"

VoraciousXMay 25, 20171 votes

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Even then you're still talking about a full build adc against targets who were building completely glass cannon. At that point you're all making the choice to say "if a damage dealer hits me before I hit them, then you can kiss my ass goodbye"

While this is true, I hit him first, every time. The most I could shred through his HP was probably 50%. He 2 shot squishies while being tanky. It's not usually something that should be happening.

QuephaMay 25, 20172 votes

the active cuts his damage by 60%, if he was still killing you easily then he could have also built a rabadon's in that slot and it wouldn't have made the least bit of difference.

VoraciousXMay 25, 20171 votes

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the active cuts his damage by 60%, if he was still killing you easily then he could have also built a rabadon's in that slot and it wouldn't have made the least bit of difference.

I don't even know if he used the active, tbh the armor and MR itself is really good despite the active. Also as I said, not so much about him killing me, I know Draven has insane damage. It's moreso about the fact that he's building almost as much magic resist and armor as he is AD while still doing tons of damage.