I thought his ult gave him 2.5 seconds of stealth and massive movement speed to let him get the fuck out of there?
"But you can't kill anyone without using his full ult damage!"
Have you ever played vs Talon? That only applies to early game, after 1-2 items he doesn't need it and late game talon can 100-0 a squishy hero using only his basic rotation.
L0ve Is Blue7 votesIf talon uses his ult to get away, he isn't using it as a part of his burst combo. So his damage output is reduced because he escapes.
But Zed can fully use his ult and he has a free get out of jail card no matter if he fails or succeed.
TeemoXNidalee2 votes[{quoted}](name=Lemon Graber,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gkTkm5nE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-05-28T11:57:41.420+0000)
If talon uses his ult to get away, he isn't using it as a part of his burst combo. So his damage output is reduced because he escapes.
But Zed can fully use his ult and he has a free get out of jail card no matter if he fails or succeed.
The first instance of damage goes through, so he always get at least half of the ult's damage. Even if he uses it to escape the second instance hits his target most times, unless they run in exactly opposite directions.
Best princess EU1 votesThe first instance of damage goes through, so he always get at least half of the ult's damage. Even if he uses it to escape the second instance hits his target most times, unless they run in exactly opposite directions.
talon is rewarded for blowing up his escape tool, zed isn't, leblanc isn't.
JafarThePanda1 votes
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for dickheads who still want to play in draft.
Or they're hipsters saying that he's "too mainstream"
TeemoXNidalee1 votes
Talon used to be stronger than Zed, but they gutted his ult cooldown for no reason.
RampageRafshan1 votesTalon used to be stronger than Zed, but they gutted his ult cooldown for no reason.
20 second ultimate on an assassin at lvl 16 is so weak
TeemoXNidalee1 votes20 second ultimate on an assassin at lvl 16 is so weak
And Talon's ult had 55 seconds at max rank, not 20.
RampageRafshan1 votes
And Talon's ult had 55 seconds at max rank, not 20.
It used to thats why they had to nerf it, it was 20 something
Sir Hammerlock1 votesZed just has more versatility than Talon because of Zed's W. That's pretty much it. All of Zed's abilities deal incredible amounts of damage with only one item or two, while Talon has to be in melee range and his only gap closer doesn't really do anything but gap close. It's a worse Kat E.
Zero Skill Tank1 votesYeah well, now assume we are not in bronze and people know how to use oracle and pinks.
TeemoXNidalee1 votesYeah well, now assume we are not in bronze and people know how to use oracle and pinks.
Yeah well, now assume we are not in bronze and people know how to stunlock and murder Zed as soon as he spawns from his highly telegraphed ult.
Oracle? We're not in season 3.
Trinket? That doesn't even reveal stealth, just shows you a red frame so you know his location.
Ward? If you have the reflexes to drop a pink fast enough to detect Talon, you should have no trouble stopping Zed's pattern. Even if you see him, that's only one part, what about his 40% ms?
Boulderox1 votesTo be fair late game it is impossible to have pinks without sacrificing items... and oricles doesn't reveal them, just shows where they WERE briefly. Stealth has a huge advantage late game is all.