"A supposedly high skill champion having 25% pick rate with a 53% win rate is clearly balanced"
No it is not.
Gut this cancer already.

No it is not.
Gut this cancer already.

Dude not cool. You took all my complaints about Vayne already. Still +1 because this champion should be given the yorick treatment.
Dude not cool. You took all my complaints about Vayne already. Still +1 because this champion should be given the yorick treatment.
You mean buried under memes and broken dreams for several years only to be reworked and ride the hype train for about 6 weeks only to die out again and have people literally forget that he exists sometimes?
Yep.
To be fair to Yorick though really enjoy him, but dont have a reason to pick him when i already have Illaoi as my go to Juggernaut
I think Yorick actually just suffers from being forgotten for so long. Everybody kinda knew he was there, but noone cared and now that they've reworked him he's quite special in gameplay and still just forgotten by many since he wasn't really existing for several years.
Post from your main.
Post from your main.
I noticed that too, can't give away the idea that hes bronze 5 playing full tank teemo adc and cant 1v1 vayne when hes 90 cs down :^)
That's op. If i ever see Yazuo in one of my games, i'll do that.
And ruin your kayle streak?
Teemo's as much an Angel as Kayle is. i've already accidentally played janna on this acc so mehh xD
I am in one of your clubs lol
Oh haha didn't recognize the name xD
yazuo is EUW
Forgive me friend, I must be blind. Let me wack the computer screen with my cane real quick.
Pls nerf vayne. Tired of banning. K thx bye.
PS. I'm not OP
It doesn't matter what account he posts it on, this champion is absolutely disgusting. Especially given the direction they went in the assassin update.
It's not necessarily even about strength either. There's nothing healthy about having the burst to one shot people and also retaining stealth + mobility + true % hp damage. She, dare I say it, makes yasuo look like a well designed champion.
SHUT YOUR MOUTH, but on a serious note, totally agree.
Keep in mind that any ADC over a 52% win rate is almost guaranteed broken.
Due to ADCs being in EVERY game, all of them SHOULD be within 1% of the median win-rate.
A high play rate alongside that should warrant immediate nerfs the next patch cycle.
remove her true damage
stupid idea. mooooving right along.
How is 12% MAX HP TRUE DAMAGE for landing 3 hits a good idea, or healthy for the game? Vayne will virtually always have between 1-2+ attacks a second, has an auto reset on her Q that can also crit, and can apply a stack of silver bolts with each instance of her E damage.
She can, literally, auto, q-> auto, E you in barely over a second (even less with buffering and higher attack speed) to guarantee that silver bolts proc and unless you out range her and have instant, targeted CC, there is nothing you can do to prevent that. Oh, you're melee? Fuck you.
i did not say reducing the damage was a stupid idea. i said removing the true damage was a stupid idea.
Do you honestly think % max hp true damage has any place in this game at all? Cause I for one do not think there should ever be an offensive type or option with literally no forms of defensive mitigation at all.
When you're the squishiest champion in the game that gets destroyed by hard cc, yeah. It's called feast or famine. Vayne is no exception to that.
No champions takes skill in this game.
Stop her before late game Easy Cuz late game she doesn't need any skill
That's the stupid part tho.... You are forced to put so much effort into stopping her from reaching late game cause once she does she's unstoppable.. almost like
rework. It's not fun.... all in all i want her passive to be something else, kinda stupid she gets movespeed moving to people when she can basically kill everyone with three autos. Her passive is even better than
ADCs are supposed to kite, not chase people... wish there was a bruiser that gains speed for chasing people rather than a carry.

Stop her before late game Easy Cuz late game she doesn't need any skill
How do you stop her from reaching level 6?
Easy, you go to level 5 and leave 5 enemies there. She won't be able to resist.
Just pink her experience points lmao.
oh wait.
We don't need to gut Vayne, holy shit guys. Just nerf her BS Q, and make her spike at 4-5 items like she's supposed to
Or we could gut her and go back to banning caitlyn instead.
Fuck it. Gut them both. I'd rather see fucking 
You'd rather see some ta-tas but that ain't going to happen either.
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Nightmares of when he was 80% pick rate
But you wont cause he's gutted too LUL
lucy is a 4 star adc right now. he's decent.
Well in terms of winrate he's sort of underperforming compared to other ADC's doe although he is pretty popular of a pick.
winrate isn't everything. especially if the pick rate is high.
Vayne has a significantly higher pick rate than Lucian. If she was balanced, considering she's supposed to be a "hard" champion, you'd expect her winrate to be below Lucian's, which isn't the case. In fact, she's the highest winrate ADC as of this patch, sitting just above Twitch (who's super strong rn), and well above the "easier" ADCs like Jinx and MF. Currently, she has a 53.19% winrate, which is just about bordering broken champ territory.
In contrast, Lucian, who has a lower pick rate, is sitting at 47.01%, which is trash tier. He underperforms against almost all the other ADCs in the game. I still play him as a comfort pick, but that's about as good as it gets.
It's true that winrate isn't everything, but looking at all the evidence, you can't really say that Lucian's a 4 star.
stop looking at winrate and play rate statistics and look at damage outputs based on items...lucian is definitely a good adc and his winrate and all of that will go up soon.
Damage output per game is kind of a misleading statistic because champions that rely heavily on all ins will always do less damage per game than poke champions. That being said, when organized by damage done, Lucian still doesn't perform as well as Vayne does, and they're both short range champions. It could even be argued that Lucian is has an advantage because of his ult, and he still underperforms.
Also, unfortunately, his stats have actually dropped even more since the preseason hit live. The new Ferver making him do less damage along with ADs now taking Warlord's for extra sustain after trades puts Lucian in an even tougher spot than he was in before. :(
the new ferver is actually supposed to be good on lucian because of how fast he can stack it and he has the advantage of being really good against assassins.
Level 7
a level fucking 7.
and not the level when you should start pushing the wave.
a fucking level 7.
I really enjoy how Katarina and LeBlanc now have to wait 3-4 seconds to get a full combo off but people like Caitlyn, Vayne, and Draven only need to auto attack you once. 10/10 would play ADC again.
(I don't know if all the assassin windows are that slow RN since I really only play Kat, but I know that Rengar still one shots me)
You guys call her OP for the Wrong Reason.
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Now that's what you call Cancer. I f you don't know why, no rights to complain on Vayne
She is high skillcap. For the love of Rito people need to stop playing her without being good at her. Everytime I see a Vayne tumble towards the enemy to grab a CS my heart dies a little.