Quinn's Q should be changed

Quantum Weeb··1 votes·315 views

Disclaimer: I had a medium sized essay, but it's gone now because yay boards. I'm just trying to summarize this from memory.

Something that has always irked me about Quinn is her Q. It just feels like an ability slot that could have been something much more interesting. Here are my main problems with it;

  1. The skillshot type is pretty standard, really nothing interesting or unique
  2. Valor's version is just as bland, if not more, it's just a small AoE around you.
  3. The ability doesn't speak ranger fantasy or really have anything to do with who Quinn is, from either a lore or gameplay standpoint.
  4. I'd just like to mention how ridiculous Quinn's Q actually is from a logic perspective, Valor's makes sense though.
  5. Blinds are an insanely situational mechanic. They can win a fight, or even the game if they hit the ADC, but are waveclear at best and mana sinks at worst against mages. Isn't this exactly the reason Riot wants to remove silences? Balancing for both cases is next to impossible.
  6. The hitbox is kind of wonky compared to the visual, making weaving between minions or judging if you can hit someone harder.
  7. Blind visual is difficult to notice if you're not looking for it, you have to focus to tell if you hit someone.
  8. The low damage really doesn't make it satisfying to land. I'm not saying it's weak, just that if feels that way.

Blinds in general have clarity problems. Take this quiz and see if you can actually tell what the outcome in these cases will be, without help.

  • a) Ezreal uses Q while blinded, will it deal damage?
  • b) Nasus uses Q on a minion while blinded. Will he deal any damage? If yes, will his Q stack?
  • c) Draven uses spinning axe while blinded. Will he deal any damage?
  • d) Vayne AA's someone with 2 silver bolts on them while blinded. Will she proc the silver bolts? What if she tumbles first?
  • e) Jinx is blinded right after she sends off her AA, then sends out another one after being blinded. Which one will miss?
  • f) Irelia is blinded, will her tenacity reduce the duration?
  • g) Soraka tries to cleanse her ADC's blind with Mikael's Crucible, will she be successful? How about if the ADC used QSS, or the Cleanse summoner spell?
  • h) Caitlyn AA's a Garen with thornmail while blinded, will she take damage?
  • i) Azir tries to autoattack with his soldiers while blinded, will he deal damage?
  • j) Poppy with Trinity Force uses Q on someone, will she deal any damage? If so, from what?
  • k) Miss Fortune uses Q while blinded, will she deal damage?
  • l) If Lucian uses his passive while blinded, will either shot hit?
  • m) If Fiora ults while blinded, will she deal damage?

Answers to the quiz are in the first comment. Did you get any wrong? Unfortunately, players using or against blinds usually don't have time to Google how the mechanic works until after they actually need the info. Making a split-second guess is nerve-wracking and frustrating if you get it wrong. Cass ult has been brought up by Riot as a ""burden of knowledge," but at least you might learn after the first or second time you were hit, especially because teammates will be able to point it out. You could get blinded 50 times and still not know how some of these interactions work, and your teammates likely won't know either.

There is so much more that could be done with an extra ability slot than a waveclear tool with an unnecessary mechanic or a button you just press during your combo for a little extra damage.

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Quantum Weeb1 votes

Quiz answers (Please upvote this to keep it the top comment)

a) No b) The AA damage will miss, but stack damage still applies. This is a bug, since bonus physical damage is supposed to miss. He will still gain stacks. c) The AA damage will miss, but spinning axe damage still applies. This is a bug, since bonus physical damage is supposed to miss. d) No, but it will if she tumbles first. This is a weird and unique interaction that to my knowledge, only Vayne has. I assume this is a bug. e) The mid-air projectile will still hit, but the next one will miss f) Yes g) All three methods will be successful h) Yes i) Yes j) She will deal full damage from her AA and Q, but no Trinity Force damage k) Yes, but this is a bug, as on-hit effect abilities should be blinded (see example a) l) No, both shots will miss m) No, she will not deal any damage while blinded

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