Riot: Some Champs required Klepto Rune for sustain. Without it they need compensated

5050BS··5 votes·1,016 views

Illaoi is the one I play and the reason you picked it for her was that she could get a steady stream of Pots to help her out in the Pre-6 levels (because she runs out of Mana after 12 clicks)

So now that Klepto is gone she needs mana costs lowered and HP healing boosted to compensate for it.

Im sure other champs also have this issue.

13 Comments

Kazekiba2 votes

agreed and encouraged Illaoi buffs.

However her Q healing was fine before Reforge so that can stay not buffed. I'm betting on Support Illinois next season though

5050BS1 votes

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agreed and encouraged Illaoi buffs.

However her Q healing was fine before Reforge so that can stay not buffed. I'm betting on Support Illinois next season though

The issue is that to heal you have to hit Q's or Tentacles. Her W does not heal. With all the mobility creep it has become very easy to dodge her SLOOW ASS Animations so she does not heal.

I used biscuits and Pots from Klepto to heal in lane a lot same with her mana issues.

Kai Guy2 votes

It's pretty core on multiple champs. Worth keeping an eye on how they do post removal.

5050BS1 votes

Iv been testing all kinds of Runes on the PBE for Illaoi and nothing is a good as Klepto was for her. Its really frustrating.

Kai Guy1 votes

Grasp is the fall back on her. If you wanna off meta it give unsealed spell book a shot. Running flash ignite core but you get access to summoner 13 for your mp and have cc summoner 3 , durability and utility toolssummoner 1 summoner 21 summoner 7 summoner 6 .

Honestly people are being idiots and not paying attention to good team comps so I'm favoring reliable hard cc till the "I need raw damage 1v 9 hyper carries to make X rank!" Mentality dies down.

I'm not sold its exclusively a sustain. So much an overall lose of power and smoother early game issue thou I certainly find the potions helpful on Kayle .

Side note. Looks like your getting downvoted just for being you by folks who don't have the decency to state their disagreement. Not a fan of that so I bumped you back up to 0. We don't see eye to eye most of always but this is 100% the kind of topic that belongs in gameplay.

Saezio1 votes

Grasp seems like the best choice. You stack it easily with Illa E and with W. You get sustain from it too.

1st item corrupting potion, maybe complement it with a D blade/shield/ring(?) based on matchup early and you should be good.

Tr4shB4NSYST3M1 votes

Yea Illaoi Ezreal Kayle are gonna be in a rough spot once its gone, curious if they'll compensate them the same patch or leave them to be bottom tier for a patch or 2 and then see what changes to make to even them out.

Im also very interested to see what happens with Renekton Jax when item 3161 gets removed. I know I know, a lot of the board absolutely hates that item, and I understand, I think Jax will still be in a decent spot just because he already scales incredibly well Shoin was ust the icing on the cake, the one I'm really worried about is Renekton B/c its arguable Shojin was the primary thing keeping him viable even to the point he would rush it many games, IMO without it he is gonna end up in a really bad spot.

5050BS1 votes

Jax will have Sanguine Blade (broken af)

Tr4shB4NSYST3M1 votes

Idk, as a jax player he doesnt really care that much about lethality, For me it'll probably go back to the old item 3078 item 3053 item 3748 core

Imo, sanguine is gonna be much more obnoxious on someone like Jayce b/c he will be able to bully then sustain off the wave.

emarythomp21 votes

No they aren’t. Illaoi has plenty of other options, kayle has grasp which works effectively similar to gp and grasp q, ez has so many runes he can go as an alternative. Idk where you got this idea that without klepto these champs would be in the dirt when they’ve prospered before without it lmao.

Same thing with spear. Jax is still good and renekton will be weaker but his overall damage would still be good.

Fella Air1 votes

Or these champs can just do whatever they did before runes reforged came out and suck it up

5050BS1 votes

Illaoi cant. Before she would get DFT a Rune that had no replacement. She also got HP/5 and a bonus flat mana to increase she pool.

emarythomp21 votes

So did you play at all before they added Kleptomancy? Because you seriously can’t unironically believe this if you played before season 8. Like this OP makes no sense lmao. These champions who used klepto were doing just fine without it. There are alternatives they can go. Also klepto abuse was bad for the game. It was basically range abuse vs melee. You could free farm on melee champions and get your items really fast.

Also sly sack of gold was stupid. You had a chance of getting 3 sly stacks that could all be 100 gold each meaning you just got a kill for auto attacking. Even getting a potion when you’ve ran out of potions is cheating laning phase and the game. It’s better that it’s removed too because now it forces those ranged champions to go something else(which they have a mutlitude of options to go) and make them actually work to get their items by either properly bullying and outfarming. Or securing a kill. You know. Like everyone else who couldn’t abuse klepto? Just a thought.

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