We need better items to deal with tanks early game.

Tails Doll·9/28/2015, 11:54:40 PM·3 votes·508 views

I think the problem with most tanks is that if they get feed early, there is nothing you can build to counter them until at least 3rd item, making them imposible to kill pre 30 ish but they just drop like flies post 5th item adc/apc. We need better items early game to deal with them, since they can just build tank and still out dmg most carries thanks to raw stats and base dmg. Something like early max hp dmg, true dmg actives or %armor pen that wont scale to late game would be nice.

EDIT: I guess people LOVE having tanks that are unkillable mid game but drop in less than a second late game.

19 Comments

Sasogwa9/28/2015, 11:57:53 PM3 votes

I see a problem with that : Ranged laners. They are already very hard to face early on, if that makes them buffed, it will be literally impossible to lane as a melee champion against a ranged champion. But overall I'm not against, as long as tanks actually don't drop like flies lategame. Itemization should be a bit smoothed out, so that tanks aren't unbreakable walls midgame that become litteral paper lategame. Botrk kinda did that, but I still think the item is pretty unhealthy for the game overall.

IcyPepper9/29/2015, 12:01:33 AM3 votes

You're asking for stronger early offensive items? Sorry man, but offensive items are for when you're ahead or you need to build for mid/late-game if you're a carry. The strong passives like %hp, true damage, %armor pen have to be worked for.

Against a fed tank, you're going to have to itemize defensively like everyone who isn't an ADC does.

item 3155 item 3111 item 3140 are decent early game items against magic damage tanks, especially ones with cc.

If you want offensive stats, you're going to have to settle with stuff like flat armor pen or lifesteal early.

Fowus9/29/2015, 1:39:35 AM1 votes

item 3134

Marthian9/29/2015, 3:05:33 AM1 votes

item 3153

The problem is, if you synergize with it well, it's also good against squishies.

Yaskamasandwich10/8/2015, 10:49:43 PM1 votes

to be honest OP I think you needed to worded your post better, more like "nerf tanks mid game to buff their late game." Right now I get the feel from the title as "Remove tanks from the game." since they're just mid game champs. I agree with you though, it is stupid that tanks become wet paper at late game after the ADCs 4th item.

ThePurpleKnight9/29/2015, 1:37:44 AM1 votes

Fucking adcs and their stupid tank complaints. Tanks are suposed to be tanky, it's bad enough items like Last Whisper and BotRK exist already, you want them to be good first buys on every adc, like no. If a tank gets ahead, they deserve to tank your damage and shit on you in the process. Tanks are underpowered not overpowered. Stop complaining that your class doesn't get to win vs everything by default.

Ralanr9/28/2015, 11:57:10 PM1 votes

Last whisper/abyssal scepter.