sejuani buff or de buff?

Teémò··1 votes·828 views

I'll start off with saying i love playing sejuani and she will always be my favorite champion. even though many players don't play her much anymore she used to be a major threat and with her ult she will always give enimies some threat of team fights. the problem lies in that with these new buffs she comes no longer the tank she has been. when I'd watch others play, they would waiste flash trying to Q to miss. she is a burst like champion but her Q is essential for damage. yes her W is used for jungling, though having it her new best damage skill this makes her even weaker to a fiora and patheon dodges even a typical blind from teemo will makes this un effective also item 3047 . she was actually very effective as a tank, i would run 9% in hp runes and 3% in masteries since at that time we would do 10% of our hp. even with 12% the de buff of skills makes her early jungling actually worse as from toad, blue golem, wolves, then red buff, you would be able to live and back clearing very well. now even with heal, it will not work. so what im trying to say is she's now more of a lane bruiser then a tank/jungler now i feel. if anyone has anything to add. I'd greatly enjoy hearing. though no jerks please xD thank youSejuani

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EffectFX1 votes

It's a nerf to full AP sej but a buff to tank sej. You can use your W more frequently than they can block or blind the skill. Also have you ever heard of timing your skills so they don't get blocked or wasted? Ninja tabi ONLY APPLIES TO PHYSICAL DAMAGE. So it only reduces 10% of the initiating attack, not any of the W on hit damage.

I already did the math, her level 1 clear she loses 14 AOE damage at level 1 with no bonus HP, her single target clear with W has gone up however. As long as the target has more than 1000 hp W now deals more damage (nevermind that all the flat damage from old W simple got moved to Q anyways so you haven't actually lost any base damage past level 3). Nevermind that it'll get even stronger as you level simply because it scales with total health now and now bonus health.

Teémò1 votes

yes i know alot about timing, I based my opinions on my older games before update though, yet like you said of blocked and wasted, its easier to hit yes, but we must ask ourselves why people prefer ap sejuani to tank, and the answer is that she doesn't have as well of tankyness as most tanks, well burst is very effective, they changed so people wouldn't scream for missing there Q cause its not there main damage output. but as going in head on with her W, it may work well with a zhongya's though i feel it could of been worked better. buying a roa will still be viable, as far as the ap side and all. not many actually play her since her past nerf. though its her ganking potential that makes her great with the nerfs of E slow trying to gank and fighting enimies under tower will be harder if they are running and you can burst hit >.< rather it makes her have to fight much more passively to get item 3023 in order to burst down a ranged fighter. as much as i love her, i really feel she will die off like sion did.

p.s id like to add ganking bottom lane, in her old play mat you will see that her ability to gank bottom lane almost ensures a kill to carry/ support, since her burst Q would take 60% of their health and her ult would scream double kill. but even if you hit them with a Q theres delay for them to dodge/ flash away from your W and this is a problem if your ganking a zed mid he starts running to the bushes you could throw your ult and Q in then W and E if he tries to get away, but he can flash out from your W because of the delay. I'm making such a problem of W is because of the delay and that you need to be in melee range. you can't use your deathfire grasp to well, because you may be able to to land it and ult Q no problem but you need to Q then ult to be able to get off a W, and if you don't have your 40% cooldown its gonna be a good 2 minutes back in the jungle before you can even try to gank a lane.

EffectFX1 votes

It doesn't matter what you prefer playing her as. She's designed to be a tank (lots of CC, defense scaling into offense, etc), it just so happens that people can cheese with her by going full AP. Riot decided to make her more viable as a tank by redirecting where her damage is at.

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