Can we instead give a counter to enchanters? It's not as if the fact that every assassin that rushed duskblade up until now (or when the nerfs hit) won't be building it means that they won't build anything at all. There are still other Lethality items and strong rush items like Death's Dance.
So instead of what to me, seems like creating more problems, can we fix the ones at hand?
Who Fed Ru4 votes"we are working on an anti shield item, it will come next preseason", they said
Metal Janna3 votesThe counter to enchanter supports is to kill the support. With the exception of Karma's ult-enhanced-E (and Taric's W), they can't shield both themselves and their ADC. Just run straight at the ADC to bait out their shield and then jump the support instead. Don't worry about being able to kill the ADC afterward. One kill is a successful roam. You've done your part to help bot, now go back to your lane so your laner doesn't come bot too.
ChaddyFantome1 votesThe counter to enchanter supports is to kill the support. With the exception of Karma's ult-enhanced-E (and Taric's W), they can't shield both themselves and their ADC. Just run straight at the ADC to bait out their shield and then jump the support instead. Don't worry about being able to kill the ADC afterward. One kill is a successful roam. You've done your part to help bot, now go back to your lane so your laner doesn't come bot too.
This. Always focus the white mage.
PhantomPrankster3 votesCan we instead give a counter to enchanters? It's not as if the fact that every assassin that rushed duskblade up until now (or when the nerfs hit) won't be building it means that they won't build anything at all. There are still other Lethality items and strong rush items like Death's Dance.
So instead of what to me, seems like creating more problems, can we fix the ones at hand?
"There are still other Lethality items and strong rush items like Death's Dance." nobody rushes death's dance... nor is it lethality
Altiverse3 votesNobody rushes death's dance...
Sure, because Duskblade is overtuned. Once it gets nerfed, Death's Dance will be a great pick, even as a first item. Offering the most possible AD from an item (80), CDR, lifesteal on abilities and anti-burst when diving the enemy backline.
Even currently, it's one of the best performing items on AD assassins according to statistics sites. But at any rate, that's beside the point. This may or may not be the next "top tier" item; the point is that Duskblade isn't the only choice AD assassins have.
Nor is it lethality.
"other Lethality items and strong..." And, in this context, means in addition to.
ModCaliCoastReplay2 votes
has really just made the entire balance issue for assassins super weird. I almost wonder if things were better in the old days before it was released...
Pokemonred2002 votesI remember when assassin builds were primarily using 
. Those were the days.
WorksAtAGayBar1 votesThey said they will be looking at shields and heals in a later pbe cycle. I hope they add something like executioiners for shields, I played against a karma + ivern recently and it was such a bad experience. Really hope they make enchanters more engaging than afk shield bot.
Altiverse1 votesWell... that's great that they'll be looking at shields and heals. But wouldn't it be better if they pushed it earlier instead of creating bandaid solutions that will consequently have negative effects later?
ChaddyFantome1 votesThey said they will be looking at shields and heals in a later pbe cycle. I hope they add something like executioiners for shields, I played against a karma + ivern recently and it was such a bad experience. Really hope they make enchanters more engaging than afk shield bot.
Executioners for shields is a terrible idea. Unlike healing, shields have no value outside of combat.
I would be okay with a champion ability that pops or ignores shields but it should not be an item effect by any stretch of the imagination.
saltran1 votesNot a Assasin player but I feel that the biggest counter to them is not a enchanter, its one froggy boi.
ChaddyFantome1 votesBecause
ok ill fed then1 votesI think a buff to assassin's is already an indirect nerf to enchanters (squishiest class) which also becomes an indirect nerf to adcs. As a result, everyone else becomes a bit better. My logic may be flawed but, a buff to assassin's is an inderect nerf to botlane and squishy midlane mages(which got nice new items anyway) and an inderect buff to everything else. I think these are great changes.