I was 12-8
she was 7-8
I was fully built with 200 armor, isolated Q dealth 1k physical damage and i had 3k health
I was wrecked. A 800 health shield every 5 seconds, a stun every 5 seconds and knock up every 5 seconds DOES NOT WORK RIOT. Especially when you combine that with a steroid + aoe execute ult.
I couldnt do shit.
Condottiero21 votesKha'Zix isn't really much of a duelist. The whole point of Kha'Zix is to pick off targets who are out of position.
Durzaka13 votesKha'Zix isn't really much of a duelist. The whole point of Kha'Zix is to pick off targets who are out of position.
This.
Kha'zix does NOT do well against people who can fight him back. Especially not someone with 2 forms of CC and a shield.
DropFill8 votesThis.
No one do well against riven. Especially not someone with 2 forms of CC and a shield.
Fixed
Bears Dont Care2 votesFixed
There are a few champions that beat her actually.
DropFill1 votesThere are a few champions that beat her actually.
With equal gold, assuming they are not only building against her? Name some please
Bears Dont Care2 votesWith equal gold, assuming they are not only building against her? Name some please
Forget it, you're so caught up in yourself it really isn't worth trying to discuss.
Decaedeus2 votes
Lt Cuddles1 votesMmmff, look at those big strong bruisers...especially~
Vegas Dad3 votesThis.
Kha'zix does NOT do well against people who can fight him back. Especially not someone with 2 forms of CC and a shield.
You are joking right? what exactly is the point of khazix and his isolation bonus if he cant hold his own 1 v 1 lol, the REAL truth is riven is fugging insanely broken, that is a fact, out of this world dmg and tankiness all together oh add in CC mobility as well no resources and wave clear.
Durzaka2 votes[{quoted}](name=Vegas Dad,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gMr8lEGR,comment-id=000200000001,timestamp=2015-01-21T00:40:04.455+0000)
You are joking right? what exactly is the point of khazix and his isolation bonus if he cant hold his own 1 v 1 lol, the REAL truth is riven is fugging insanely broken, that is a fact, out of this world dmg and tankiness all together oh add in CC mobility as well no resources and wave clear.
To pick off and assassinate someone. Not to duel someone straight up. There is a very big difference between the 2.
Kmp6 votesActually as a kha player who can play kha pretty much anywhere I have to disagree a bit with this. He can easily out duel someone if they're isolated and you use ult for dodging important skillshots.
Budupops16 voteswhy are you building health and armour on khazix
Matezoide10 votesBut muh HP/5
brad8 votesokay and how did this fight even last 5 seconds
are you that bad??
did you miss everything??????
does kha even have abilities to miss????????????
if you isolated q did 1k damage she would be dead by the time it came up the third time, and if she wasnt, the third use of your q would kill her
stop being bad
pleep6 votesI can't beat riven on any melee champion except trundle. Even when i flash her ult, she still wins. A very disgustingly designed champion, nerfs are inc
as for khazix he is well known garbage, dont play him
DoraTheBrown8 votesjax lategame, nasus lategame, and yi lategame? ;3
Leti the Yeti8 votesI do it with Udyr after buying a frozen heart... and Garen at lvl3... and Chogath at lvl3...
Vegas Dad1 votesI do it with Udyr after buying a frozen heart... and Garen at lvl3... and Chogath at lvl3...
Wait frozenheart is like useles vs riven beyond the armour, she does care about attack speed.
Leti the Yeti2 votesRiven is hardly a threat that I would go out of my way and waste my hard earned gold to counter build against her Frozen heart is purely for my sake mp and cdr.. armor is nice too people buy frozen heart for the aura? lol i dont
if you have armor and maxed out turtle.. Riven tickles I might end up with more hp than before she even started hitting me lmao!
Llanite4 votesNo one beats Riven late game.
Done it with 6 pcs Yi + elixir, down to 25% HP within 1 stun, that, I've already dodge the Q knock. :v
Ratbert2 votesrange beats riven late game. You're playing yi against someone who has pointblank cc.
YOU BEEN WARNED4 votesYi lategame?
Besides pitting broken champions against each other isn't a way to justify their balance. ( I'm talking about yi and riven being broken. )
Rock Rockburgh3 votesIf everyone is broken, then no one is. Riot wants flashy plays? They can get them just fine by balancing every champ to the same high standard, while still letting every champ be viable. (Which is something that everyone wants oh my god.)
Vegas Dad3 votes[{quoted}](name=YOU BEEN WARNED,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gMr8lEGR,comment-id=000300000002,timestamp=2015-01-20T12:35:09.090+0000)
Yi lategame?
Besides pitting broken champions against each other isn't a way to justify their balance. ( I'm talking about yi and riven being broken. )
You joking? yi gets stunned/knocked up and instagibbed.
YOU BEEN WARNED1 votesYeah, I wish those stuns were easy like Taric's. Besides he's deceptively tanky with no defensive items (More hp than darius at lvl1 and just as much hp lategame,) forget the movespeed and lifesteal 
.
He has 2 states of invulnerability aside from them, his Q and his W. If you stun before Q then you just wasted an ability. If you stun before W then again you have a big problem given Yi wasn't diving you 1v5.
He does too much even against a mediocre CC team.
Narasimha6 votesGaren, Darius, Cho, Yorick, Volibear, Sion (skill match up), Pantheon, Jayce (kinda counts), and as you said, Trundle.
The trick to fighting against a Riven is knowing her fighting style. She excels at hit-and-run. She wants to get in, do her stuff, and get out. So on the other hand, she doesn't do well against champions that can poke her down before hand, or force her to prolong the fight.
FluxBound4 votesSo would that make her an assassin? or just a bursty fighter like 
and 
Vegas Dad2 votesGaren, Darius, Cho, Yorick, Volibear, Sion (skill match up), Pantheon, Jayce (kinda counts), and as you said, Trundle.
The trick to fighting against a Riven is knowing her fighting style. She excels at hit-and-run. She wants to get in, do her stuff, and get out. So on the other hand, she doesn't do well against champions that can poke her down before hand, or force her to prolong the fight.
make up more stories please yorick does nothing to riven lol, same for cho and she rapes jayce.
Buttigieg 20201 votesKha evolved q does 2k damage when isolated, tell me he is garbage again.
pleep1 votesKha evolved q does 2k damage when isolated, tell me he is garbage again.
Talon Q (with my build and arpen runes) does 1600k to any target at any time, has a bleed for an additional 400, and procs lifesteal.
Yes, Kha is garbage.
And ive never seen kha do more than 1500 dmg on a single q btw.
Ratbert2 votesnever seen the 1.6 million damage talon. or the 1.6k talon either. Assuming they're cc'd, it has a scaling and base of 220+143%bonus ad. Unless you set it up, you'd need about ~600 ad to do this. Assuming no armor and no arpen, you'd need 965 ad alone on a cc'd target to do 1600 or, with all the right percent damage masteries, a mere 835 ad.
pleep1 votesnever seen the 1.6 million damage talon. or the 1.6k talon either. Assuming they're cc'd, it has a scaling and base of 220+143%bonus ad. Unless you set it up, you'd need about ~600 ad to do this. Assuming no armor and no arpen, you'd need 965 ad alone on a cc'd target to do 1600 or, with all the right percent damage masteries, a mere 835 ad.
Your a dumbo. Do u realize there is a such thing as crit?
I use a special build, that gets around 80% crit chance with triforce and PD replacing boots. This added to his 15% and 10% damage amplification from E and his passive in addition to the blade weaving mastery results in Q's of 1600 dmg or more.
Ratbert1 votesoh forgot the 15%, but i already added the other percent amps. Assuming triforce, pd and ie, youmuus for your crit, that gives you 140 bonus ad. If you got two bts or equal items, that's 300 bonus ad. about 450 ad total. lets say you crit for 250%, that's about 1250 and trinity gives another 216. The skill will give about 700. add in the 38% bonus for about 2.9k damage. The person you hit would need slightly less than 100 effective armour to reduce that to less than 16k, not counting damage percent reductions from non armour sources. Since you say "any" target, you technically wouldn't hit like that on anyone with over 300 armor, which is easily achievable with three items (maybe one-two depending on the champ). With 300 armor, they will have over 100 effective armor unless you have a teammate with armor reduction, which means your damage will not reach or exceed 1600. But of course, you could be attacking alistar with ult in mao ult for like 300 damage tops. "any time" "any target"
pleep1 votesoh forgot the 15%, but i already added the other percent amps. Assuming triforce, pd and ie, youmuus for your crit, that gives you 140 bonus ad. If you got two bts or equal items, that's 300 bonus ad. about 450 ad total. lets say you crit for 250%, that's about 1250 and trinity gives another 216. The skill will give about 700. add in the 38% bonus for about 2.9k damage. The person you hit would need slightly less than 100 effective armour to reduce that to less than 16k, not counting damage percent reductions from non armour sources. Since you say "any" target, you technically wouldn't hit like that on anyone with over 300 armor, which is easily achievable with three items (maybe one-two depending on the champ). With 300 armor, they will have over 100 effective armor unless you have a teammate with armor reduction, which means your damage will not reach or exceed 1600. But of course, you could be attacking alistar with ult in mao ult for like 300 damage tops. "any time" "any target"
TLDR, you were wrong, and you are too egocentric and immature accept that you were wrong.
Grow up kid, naturally i wouldn't do max damage against a target stacking armor. That should go without saying for rational people.
go away
Ratbert1 votes"says any target any time" No shit? then how could you possibly say any target any time? Are you drunk? Are you saying that since x does y damage against some squishy, they are better than someone who does slightly less against a tank??
Also I was not wrong because you said ANYONE but i guess i'm not busy enough defending my inaccurate claims to see what you're seeing. If you could KINDLY point out where i was wrong, please feel free to do so instead of relying on insulting me.
pleep1 votes"says any target any time" No shit? then how could you possibly say any target any time? Are you drunk? Are you saying that since x does y damage against some squishy, they are better than someone who does slightly less against a tank??
Also I was not wrong because you said ANYONE but i guess i'm not busy enough defending my inaccurate claims to see what you're seeing. If you could KINDLY point out where i was wrong, please feel free to do so instead of relying on insulting me.
When you say leggos are "the best toy in the world" people like Mr. ratbert get out a calculator and try to argue about it. So much fail
Kys.
Ratbert1 votesI suppose mathematically disproving you is bad now. Next time i'll be sure to use logical fallacies like you.
RedTrinketGoneHa6 votesThat's the problem with Riven, like Lee Sin she has too much in her kit, High burst, A Shield that scales well, Knockup, Stun, and low Cooldown...
MrSlowDie5 votes
junglerboy162 votes—and that, kids, is the story of how champions are balanced. Story time is over.
Cindikle5 votesWhen the shield is up is when you should be in stealth. It doesn't last that long(1.5s).
Either way. Everything she does scales with AD. I assume you were also in the jungle. Meaning your gold generation was lower. Even with more kills.
Riven is annoying. But I don't see a problem with the matchup. She's very strong close up. Isolated or not. Why should you get the free win just because of that?
Also tanky builds are weak right now. All Riven needed was the usually Bruitalizer and Last Whisper. Which if you're full build she has those and probably Hydra.
In a 1v1. Riven beats Kha'Zix. Even more so if you can't break though her lifesteal and work around her shield. And no, I'm not a Riven main. Only time I've played her is when I get her on ARAM.
JJI7443 votesWell, you ended the match at 12-9, so I assume the game ended shortly after Riven killed you.
And looking at the match, that means that not only were you full build, so was she.
So you had dam near glass cannon A vs. dam near glass cannon B. Those kind of fights tend to be over in the blink of an eye, and yes, Riven has the advantage thanks to having a stun and a GA to your slow+Randuin`s.
Subject 53 votes"Outplayed" -Every Riven player in the history of being a Riven player.
Yeah, Riven is not played professionaly, therefore she is not OP. Not me speaking, its the tools Riot uses.
Vegas Dad3 votes[{quoted}](name=Subject 5,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gMr8lEGR,comment-id=001a,timestamp=2015-01-20T21:58:12.430+0000)
"Outplayed" -Every Riven player in the history of being a Riven player.
Yeah, Riven is not played professionaly, therefore she is not OP. Not me speaking, its the tools Riot uses.
actually she does get some professional play, koreans and euro use her in jungle from time to time. Honestly I find pro's often have tunnel vision no reason not to be using riven as a pro she has everything you want from a champ and more, and most of her lane counters would never be though of being used in pro play either.
pleep1 votes[{quoted}](name=Vegas Dad,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gMr8lEGR,comment-id=001a0001,timestamp=2015-01-21T01:30:19.100+0000)
actually she does get some professional play, koreans and euro use her in jungle from time to time. Honestly I find pro's often have tunnel vision no reason not to be using riven as a pro she has everything you want from a champ and more, and most of her lane counters would never be though of being used in pro play either.
Pros have a circle jerk hive mentality just like the rest of this community, especially NA.
Remember when they were playing khazix jungle and building nothing but tank stats? thats the LCS for ya
FantasySniper2 votesSo you built tanky on an AD burst caster and thought that you could win against a Riven?
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/224/5/c/facedesk_gif_by_katetls-d684dcx.gif
MartinLaEpic1 votesthe reason why riven isnt a problem IMO is because she can be countered ridiculously hard early. You are posting about one situation but I remember when I was Renekton vs Riven top I went something like 4/1 in lane and went on to dominate mid game. Our adc then proceeded to out duel her and our adc wasn't vayne.
RTX Warnoise10 votes^Riven Main talking bullshit as usual.
You face a very bad Riven ( who still are dangerous) Renekton USED to beat Riven in lane, but not now.
Riven jumps on adc and instagib them.
DropFill4 votesthe reason why riven isnt a problem IMO is because she can be countered ridiculously hard early. You are posting about one situation but I remember when I was Renekton vs Riven top I went something like 4/1 in lane and went on to dominate mid game. Our adc then proceeded to out duel her and our adc wasn't vayne.
No, she can't be counterd extremely early.
TheI3igDaddy4 votes"I'm going to use my single Bronze level game where I was able to beat a sub-par Riven as PROOF, undeniable PROOF that she's not ridiculous. I also used one of the few champs that can actually fight her early."
