Not making Aatrox passive decay so damn fast would go a long way

It's not only that tho. Yeah if you get full stacks in the middle of a teamfight most of the times keeping them up is possible. But if you are roaming then it's flat out impossible to keep stacks up for the fight your roaming toward.

It is more an issue in the jungle, as you can't keep it up at all so your clear is ass.

Liandries Torment would do the same thing, with the downside of being an otherwise objectively terrible item, unless you're going for APtrox.

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i think its best if we all just stop playing aatrox all together until they can figure out wth they want to do with him. You go tank but he does literally no damage. you go damage but hes attack speed is so slow and trash it doesnt matter.

they ruined my main

I just lost lane against Cho'Gath and was fighting a fed Hecarim. They could barely 1v2 me when I only had Doran's Blade as my lifesteal. Absolute cancer just like the old Aatrox, except this one is cancer later into the game rather than early via damage DOMINATION. I can't imagine what a successful lane Aatrox can do with the tankier build of Visage + Titanic.

I feel like this is a friggin' crime. The only drawback the enemy had was an Urgot who quite honestly didn't play bad at all, they just had no damage to melt me unless it was literally everything they could throw. Even had a Mortal Reminder.

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i think its best if we all just stop playing aatrox all together until they can figure out wth they want to do with him. You go tank but he does literally no damage. you go damage but hes attack speed is so slow and trash it doesnt matter.

they ruined my main

idk yet i feel tanky aatrox is pretty decent. Since you have %missing health sustain. My build so far and I carried was (i'd take rageblade anyday for the amazing scaling if you stay alive long enough and much more W procs. I could solo herald despite having 0% lifesteal thanks to W and rageblade). However you fall off SUPER HARD once their carries get enough damage to burst you down.

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But more on topic I find other similar mechanics to take more time to decay. Think fervour, yasuo holding Q, even jax passive. And aatrox really needs his blood rush or he dies. That's also really annoying to die in teamfights without passive activating because you die too fast. I don't understand why they needed to have the revive linked to the blood rush thing and not generalistic. Also, it somewhat sucks for Aatrox jungle, because the duration of blood rush is rather low. Should we make blood rush refilling on monsters? probably not, would be op. How about hitting monsters increase the duration of blood rush by 1 second, up to 2 or 3 second max increased duration (to not have blood rush constantly). That's a bit texty though..

If you built him tanky in the first place then you have plenty of time via Q>E>R and finishing off with W. Jungle Aatrox is no longer viable because he relied on being a glass cannon in order to actually succeed in the role, so I'd rather keep Aatrox to a lane if it means he keeps this current build path.

He also became extremely gold-dependent, something junglers are not allowed to be if they want to be successful.

He was overpowered on release. How do you think he ended up in the gutter? The crazy dude could 1v5 casually as if they had zero AD and AP