Can we just remove tanks from the game?

fuffychan·Jun 3, 2017·2 votes·1,174 views

They remove skill from the equation, and then the game is decided by which team has more tanks.

41 Comments

Fine Ionian SilkJun 3, 201710 votes

While we're at it, can we remove all the champions in the game? They take too much skill for me to play. Everyone should be forced to choose between caster minion and melee minion.

RalanrJun 3, 20177 votes

No, only cannon minion. Caster Minion vs Melee Minion is an unfair match up.

Fine Ionian SilkJun 3, 20175 votes

You're right... I can't believe I made such a mistake.

JbelsJun 3, 20177 votes

Fuck off, fluffy. Tanks have it bad enough without people like you advocating for the removal of their existence

fuffychanJun 3, 20171 votes

Tanks have it bad? Theyve all recently been buffed.

And I see Galio Maokai Zac 1 shotting people while building full tank.

"tanks have it rough"

RalanrJun 3, 20173 votes

Those don't represent all tanks.
Maokai was only doing that as AP. That got nerfed.
No, they aren't.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJun 3, 20172 votes

but funny thing is i had 80k damage dealt to champs in a game as maokai recently

http://imgur.com/oyva7wa

build was item 3027 item 3025 item 3151 item 3068 item 3065 item 3047

RalanrJun 3, 20173 votes

Pretty Bruiser heavy.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJun 3, 20173 votes

yes bruiser heavy having armor, mr, cdr, health and aoe slows

how dare i not got item 3152 item 3100 item 3165 item 3089 item 3135 item 3020 tree

RalanrJun 3, 20176 votes

When you have two damage items, you're no longer a tank build. You're a bruiser.

Fondling GemsJun 3, 20173 votes

And he technically had 4 items that were providing damage, ROA and Liandries have AP, Sunfire has a burn, and IBG has an enhanced aoe auto on it. That all adds up a lot.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJun 3, 20173 votes

so based on items determines the champ classification ?

cuz i had some recommend standard items on maokai im not a tank ? im a bruiser? which dont exist so juggernaut?

therefore mundo who builds all tank items would be a tank by your argument!

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RalanrJun 3, 20171 votes

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so based on items determines the champ classification ?

Nope. Bruiser build. You're still a tank, but you're building damage so you're expected to hit a lot.

cuz i had some recommend standard items on maokai im not a tank ? im a bruiser? which dont exist so juggernaut?

Nope, still a tank, bruiser build.

therefore mundo who builds all tank items would be a tank by your argument!

Nope. Lack of hard CC still stops him from being a tank.

CHECK MATE MUFO [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Board is still on the table.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJun 3, 20173 votes

then maokai is a tank regardless of what he builds

so which one of your statements are false?

RalanrJun 3, 20171 votes

I said you were building bruiser. I never said that made you bruiser.

Zed building all AP doesn't make him a mage, it makes him an assassin who built poorly.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJun 3, 20172 votes

which one of those are one shotting people while being full tank ?

Handy Sandy Jun 3, 20174 votes

And I see 1 shotting people while building full tank.

Is it really oneshotting? Or is it them sticking to a target for 5-10 seconds hitting them over and over again? Full tank builds don't offer enough damage to actually oneshot.

JbelsJun 3, 20172 votes

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Tanks have it bad? Theyve all recently been buffed.

And I see 1 shotting people while building full tank.

"tanks have it rough"

3 champions do not represent the entire class. Maokai just got his comeuppance, Zac doesn't do anywhere near enough damage to oneshot people, and Galio most likely has nerfs lined up for the patch after this one. If you honestly think any tank can build full defense and still oneshot somebody, you're more delusional than a Jets fan

RalanrJun 3, 20173 votes

He's going to report you now.

RalanrJun 3, 20176 votes

Why not remove ADCs? That way we can have more diversity in botlane.

fuffychanJun 3, 20172 votes

Nobody is stopping you from playing Pantheon XinZhao bot lane

RalanrJun 3, 20176 votes

Cept the other adc. And my team who dodges.

Edit: Really Fuffy? Do you have to downvote everything?

PennsJun 3, 20171 votes

Tbh I dont think an adc is gonna stop you from playing Xin or Panth bot. The enemy support if anything.. or your team that dodges lul

fuffychanJun 3, 20171 votes

Why does nobody try it?

You downvoted my stuff so I had to do it to make it even.

RalanrJun 3, 20174 votes

Fuffy, I don't even need to downvote you. I rarely if ever do. This time I only downvoted your post because you downvoted me first. Frankly you downvote everyone from the get go.

Edit: Your posts I mean. Not your threads.

Handy Sandy Jun 3, 20174 votes

While tanks aren't mechanically the hardest champions of the game, the role of a tank is. You have to know who's going to damage you, how to even tank in the first place, how much damage you can handle taking, etc and you aren't having people peel for you. Make one mistake and you're pretty much dead if you let people kite you. When fighting one, do you really expect to take down their 3000-4000 health before they're able to do around 2k of yours while you haven't built any resistances? You're supposed to build armor/magic penetration and KITE them. If you're playing an assassin, then somethings wrong. Assassin don't deal with tanks, they blow up the ADC or midlaner.

Tbh with all this damage floating around Tanks are weak atm. The only ones that can actually tank and aren't completely useless after their engage are Maokai Nautilus Galio

fuffychanJun 3, 20171 votes

You just admitted tanks can 1v1 and solo people. In what world is this okay? Tanks already have the advantage of providing far superior CC, why do they all have mobility and assassin level damage now?

Zac Sejuani Maokai DrMundo Galio are soloing everyone and dominating

RalanrJun 3, 20173 votes

Mundo isn't a tank and doesn't even have much CC. He has to 1v1.

And if tanks couldn't fight, they couldn't top it jungle.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJun 3, 20173 votes

cough cough excuse me .. may i interject ?

lmao DrMundo

RalanrJun 3, 20172 votes

Not going to have That discussion here. We both disagree so let's not start.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJun 3, 20172 votes

http://imgur.com/aIfim8Y

ChaddyFantomeJun 3, 20173 votes

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cough cough excuse me .. may i interject ?

lmao

Mundo is a juggernaut not a tank.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJun 3, 20173 votes

now according to ralanr who has argued the same thing just argued that me having some ap on maokai makes me a bruiser and not a tank... and we all know bruiser is the old term for a juggernaut...

so if my items in a game takes me from a tank to a bruiser then mundo who is a "juggernaut" who builds full tank and no damage items would then be a tank at that point .

not my argument his... read below to see the comments

ChaddyFantomeJun 3, 20172 votes

Mundo has no tank aspects whateso ever. You pick mundo to deal damage. He builds defense to be harder to kill so he can persist and continue to deal damage, not to disrupt the enemy with crowd control.

That makes him a juggrnaut, not a tank. its that simple.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJun 3, 20173 votes

lol

hmm let me build tanky so i cant die and be a pain in the ass while i dont really have any damage scaling on my abilities... and i have tons of sustain and survivablity and a form of cc... but im not a tank cuz my main damage/poke tool is also my form of cc

but its ok im meant for damage

ChaddyFantomeJun 3, 20172 votes

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lol

hmm let me build tanky so i cant die and be a pain in the ass while i dont really have any damage scaling on my abilities...

Mundo has Max HP damage do. He doesn't need to scale his abilities.

and i have tons of sustain and survivablity and a form of cc...

If a slow is enough to make you a tank, then i main a tank. Talon Hell im a better tank than Mundo because my slow is AoE whereas his is single target nuke.