If ANYONE should have %health true damage...

TheI3igDaddy·9/30/2015, 11:20:31 PM·152 votes·6,505 views

It should be Kog'Maw.

We're talking about a voidling creature that constantly spits out an otherworldly vomit that burns everything. It would make thematic sense that this vile shit should destroy ANYONE who's afflicted by it for too long, since it's an alien weapon that doesn't exist on Runeterra.

And balance-wise, it's more fitting to have such disgusting damage on an immobile champion that can only protect itself with a slow field. Its damage could be altered to do %health true damage on each attack, but less than the current values for Silver Bolts, as they're obviously every three hits.

I'd be fine with Vayne having %health true damage if she wasn't a strong, mobile duelist with better self-peel than Kog, but unfortunately, all of it is true. Perhaps we can alter her silver bolt proc to ignore a percentage of enemy armor instead? Tanks can still build health, and it's not like Vayne players are going to stop buying Blade of the Ruined King anyway.

Praise this idea, flame it, I don't care. I just want there to be some semblance of balance among ADC's.

EDIT: Changed Silver Bolts idea to ignore a % instead of all enemy armor; that might be just as broken.

EDIT 2: Okay so maybe some of you aren't reading this right.

I'M NOT KEEPING HIS % HP MAGIC DAMAGE IF THIS CHANGE HAPPENS. IT WILL ONLY BE % HEALTH TRUE DAMAGE. NO MORE AP RATIO.

Jesus christ, of course if he has both types of damage like that he'd be broken.

93 Comments

Very Hard Engage9/30/2015, 11:34:28 PM25 votes

all they have to do to vayne is not allow it to proc on the same target multiple times without some form of CD attached to it.

similar to skarner stun, cant do it again for several more seconds.

Lintu Puck10/1/2015, 1:07:10 AM10 votes

as a Koggy player, I like this :D

Daedalus87110/1/2015, 12:30:09 AM8 votes

Why the fuck does everyone keep complaining about Silver Bolts. That's not what makes Vayne strong right now.

AtheosisX10/1/2015, 12:05:07 AM7 votes

No one should have it. Period. End of story.

Dazaruk10/1/2015, 4:27:56 AM6 votes

KogMaw should do true damage to anything with flesh Vayne should do true damage to "black magic" users Ashe should do true damage to enemies of the Freljord Draven should do true damage to anyone with damage over time effects Lucian should do true damage to anyone from the Shadow Isles Caitlyn should do true damage to someone with their back turned to her ult Jinx should do true damage to anyone that wants order instead of chaos(filthy heretic) Graves should do true damage to any man without facial hair

Get on it Riot

Neurosurgeonwolf10/1/2015, 3:57:08 AM5 votes

He already does an amazing amount of damage with his W. Adding anymore damage, let alone true damage, would send him flying over the edge into pick/ban priority.

He already is the highest damage ADC, no need to make him absolutely break the game apart.

Pyrodinium9/30/2015, 11:25:00 PM5 votes

Would you reduce his Attack Range steroid along with that change?

Crett9/30/2015, 11:51:45 PM4 votes

No ADC needs true damage it's a tank busting mechanic on a role that already inherently counters tanks

Horrow10/1/2015, 4:46:39 AM4 votes

PERsonally I feel that Kayle's passive should be given to Kog.

It fits even more thematically. That bile he spews out at opponents would naturally corrode their armor and magic resist.

Dengeden10/1/2015, 4:45:45 AM3 votes

Yeah, Kog'maw wouldn't be completely OP with that or anything. I totally can't see AP Kog'maw shredding through tanks when he can't hit skill shots.

The important thing is that we hate Vayne and that's all that matters.

Biffolo10/1/2015, 9:16:49 PM2 votes

Holy shit. I don't even. You want someone to be able to deal % max health true damage on EVERY auto from 710 range away? Yea he's immobile but that's just absurd. He's going to be able to sit far enough away to just massacre everyone. Hope you enjoy seeing juggermaw comps, because that's all you would see if this were to become a thing.

ihaveapotion10/1/2015, 6:58:44 AM2 votes

Ive said it so many times, the problem is overloading champs giving them all roles; being tanky and having high damage and mobility, being a carry and having hard cc and mobility etc etc.. thats overloading champs fucking up the whole core of this game; putting together a diverse team that fills eachothers champs gaps, now every team is a team of champs that practically are the same: i hit you with a Cc and its 100-0.

Thats why league is failing, thats why the fun in this game is being destroyed.

Blade of Justic10/1/2015, 3:04:41 AM2 votes

As someone who doesn't play too much Kog'Maw...

http://media.giphy.com/media/wkfORoJwUKDW8/giphy.gif

filthy adc main10/1/2015, 9:25:47 AM2 votes

Lower elos complain about vayne... but tristana is way more broken. Lol

Chuck Charles10/1/2015, 9:37:39 AM2 votes

the true damage isn't what is most cancer about vayne though. the vayne QQ is only real because her ult AD steroid, low cooldown Q ad steroid, and absolutely insane attack speed. if you are squishy the silver bolts are not why you are being melted so fast. you are being melted because she builds the same attack speed items as anyone else, and benefits way more from it while also having so big of an AD steroid on ult that she doenst even need to build straight damage items until later. I mean a lot of vayne's dont get infinity edge until way later. that says something.

I feel shes not insanely op, but her ultimate paired with insane attack speed scaling is annoying

Whimsy Spook10/1/2015, 12:11:40 PM2 votes

How about instead of making Silver Bolts a passive, make it a targetable-active with a cooldown that costs mana. If she gets a kill it resets. Then it's still strong, but she might only be-able to use the proc once per target. She's a hunter after-all. Maybe to compensate, the 3rd silver bolt proc also gives true vision of the target for 5 seconds, since she's a 'Night Hunter'.

RottedApples10/1/2015, 8:11:16 PM2 votes

to be fair i think vayne having true damage is fine from a thematic perspective.

WutsKraken10/1/2015, 8:50:38 PM2 votes

Meh, thematically I think Vayne is ok with true damage. Plus her main strength is really her self-peel and kite, True damage is just a powerful add-on which is annoying but able to be worked around

As for Kog'maw, agreed changing his W to True damage even if a bit less makes a lot more sense thematically and balance wise because Kog'maw basically dies the second something jumps him

CasterGilgamesh10/1/2015, 7:03:02 AM1 votes

well he already has % health magic damage