Old Fiora vs new Fiora counterplay

DoktorKaiser··3 votes·835 views

Old Fiora counterplay : Jax

New Fiora counterplay : get fucked lul

Such design RITO, I wonder if you ever made a squishy melee hyper carry that wasnt toxic... Fiora MasterYi Tryndamere YasuoXinZhao you are really on a streak here smh. I hope you enjoyed my shitpost, thanks... [zombie-nunu-bummed]

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undesirable team5 votes

old fiora was just a press-r bot, after spamming the rest of her buttons get like 0 counterplay to her ult pentakill xd

420 grams2 votes

Passive: this is most of her damage. Protect your vitals in fights and you decrease her damage output immensely. Q: if it misses (like it's used as an escape or you used a dash to dodge it) it goes on a long cooldown. W: only stuns if you throw a hard cc at it. Has a long cooldown that leaves plenty of room to engage. It is also very easy to dodge. E: the damage comes from the second auto. Disengage the fight quickly and she can't utilize the damage. R: protect vitals. Disengage or keep one alive to deny her heal. Denying her heal in a team fight denies the only team fight oriented thing in her kit. Items: she buys lifesteal often, so executioners calling, morellos, and ignite all counter her sustain.

Hope this helps!

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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Passive: this is most of her damage. Protect your vitals in fights and you decrease her damage output immensely. Q: if it misses (like it's used as an escape or you used a dash to dodge it) it goes on a long cooldown. W: only stuns if you throw a hard cc at it. Has a long cooldown that leaves plenty of room to engage. It is also very easy to dodge. E: the damage comes from the second auto. Disengage the fight quickly and she can't utilize the damage. R: protect vitals. Disengage or keep one alive to deny her heal. Denying her heal in a team fight denies the only team fight oriented thing in her kit. Items: she buys lifesteal often, so executioners calling, morellos, and ignite all counter her sustain.

Hope this helps!

Majority of her damage is actually physical, if you aren't an armor stacking tank.

420 grams1 votes

Yes. She is an ad champion.

CrazFight 1 votes

Your trying to justify how bad fiora's counter play is atm by comparing to the old fiora .... which was cancer and reworked due to the fact of no counter play (Yes jax did "decent" against her , but overall old fiora still rekt faces). Do I agree that fiora has problems atm... yes... do I think new fiora is better than old fiora... obviously yes.

Now giving you the benefit of the doubt and not gonna call you... special just going to assume you just saw a similar post and posted this, because according to op.gg you were born in the time of old fiora .

Also here are some counter play tips:

  • Her passive gives her a "vital" , it comes up on your champion towards the feet, if the vital comes up facing towards her side of the lane back off and wait for it to spawn on your side of the lane so she cant chunk you.
  • If she misses her Q you can probably get a good trade since when she misses it , it actually has a longish cd.
  • try to bait out her w instead of just using CC first
  • If she uses e to clear minions another great time to engage
  • If she uses ult dont try and fight her, but if you have to try to make sure she doesnt proc all 4 vitals
AlienPrimate1 votes

I'll just leave this here. Old Fiora got wrecked by anyone with armor. http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1539653344/209287161?tab=overview

Now if you build armor against her it doesn't matter. If you build health against her it doesn't matter. The only possible way to beat Fiora is in a 2v1 with cc or simply out damaging her. Tank stats do very little for you because armor doesn't matter to true damage and her true damage is stronger if you build health.

If you fall behind against the reworked Fiora you might as well just leave top to be devoured by her because you have no chance of surviving. Typically if you are behind you can just build tanky and not die under tower. Nope, "screw anyone with tank stats, I shred armor and shred more of it the more health you have."

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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I'll just leave this here. Old Fiora got wrecked by anyone with armor. http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1539653344/209287161?tab=overview

Now if you build armor against her it doesn't matter. If you build health against her it doesn't matter. The only possible way to beat Fiora is in a 2v1 with cc or simply out damaging her. Tank stats do very little for you because armor doesn't matter to true damage and her true damage is stronger if you build health.

If you fall behind against the reworked Fiora you might as well just leave top to be devoured by her because you have no chance of surviving. Typically if you are behind you can just build tanky and not die under tower. Nope, "screw anyone with tank stats, I shred armor and shred more of it the more health you have."

A large portion of her damage is still physical, so it still helps against that.

If you are a juggernaut who isn't Darius or if you're a tank with lots of CC, you'll be able to turtle and kill her if she tries to dive, until mid-lategame where she'll get too tanky for that to matter.

And Fiora still has a hard time diving without minions until super lategame, so if you have good waveclear you can just do that.

Ahristocats1 votes

mfw counterpick is counterplay now

xd

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