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The most OP/broken/toxic kits that ruin the game! GO!

Arcade Andrew··7 votes·2,547 views

List your least favorite kits on champions that you think ruin the game.

NOTE: THIS IS NOT "OH ZED IS SO OP OR OH THIS CHAMP IS BROKEN!" thread, this is to see what kits you guys think should never have been added to league and are downright ridiculous unless they super ultra mega nerfed it that they may aswell remove them from the game

for me my top three hated kits are as follows

  1. olaf: even after super nerfs I personally still think olafs kit is broken and toxic tword core gameplay,

now he isnt really OP anymore thanks to the nerfs but the kit idea remains that, his sustain is VERY GOOD

it gets better the lower health he is, meaning he could build very tanky and get to 1k health out of 6k for example and have huge regen(not to mention runes masteries and items that could prevent him from even dying)

now on top of the regen, what I find MOST toxic about his kit is his ultimate, no kit should have super huge regen and then to top it off an ulti that PREVENTS EVERY COMMON FORM OF CC(stuns roots slows ect.)

I find it toxic that not only do you get awesome regen, but you also get an ability to prevent stuns and such that would allow somebody to out damage your regen

  1. janna:

now janna may not be OP or broken or very popular but her kit idea irks me

sure I love playing janna but I do not like her kit for several reasons -She is the only champion in the game that can shield a turret (with all these recent turret balance changes do we really need more turret protection? and if we do why cant anyone else do it? it seems unfair that one team is able to shield turrets and the other team isnt) -Her ult can work with and against your team and its her heal?! Most people play janna know that her ult is her only heal, but the bad part about it is it can hurt your team (say you blow an enemy out of an ult skillshot?) or her only heal is used as a disengage (why does she have to stay rooted for the heal? viks ult is a cloud thingy and it can moved!

and the infamous tornadoes

not op or broken but the fact that it knocks you up THEN slows you is slightly annoying in a kit, we got leo the queen of CC but none of her abilities do 2 forms of CC on you And that goes with any other champion (nami) with that in their kit, one ability shouldnt have two forms of CC in it

  1. AND NUMBER THREE Thresh

he is great his kit is balanced but thresh's kit is actually quite toxic, when you think of thresh you think of hooks just like blitz right? but the problem is THRESH HOOKS dont really hook anyone, as in bring them to you, YOU HAVE TO BRING YOURSELF to them to do anything good and you then have no way away unless you use flash, thresh is literally leagues own kamakazi kit of a champion

You look at j4 or jayce who have moves that dive in, but they also have ways other than a summoner spell to get out, thresh's kit can be very toxic to the core gameplay and definition of hooks, when i hook something they come to me I dont go to them!

EDIT: PLEASE NOTE: THIS IS NOT A THREAD FOR YOU TO QQ ABOUT OP CHAMPIONS, THIS IS A THREAD TO DISCUSS AND SHARE CERTAIN KITS/KIT IDEAS (wether OP or not on the champion DOES NOT matter) THAT ARE TOXIC TO THE GAMEPLAY AND ARENT VERY FUN TO PLAY AGAINST OR USE

41 Comments

Nucleophilic atk4 votes

Zed always and forever

Very Hard Engage4 votes

Fizz Fizz Fizz Fizz Fizz

the nightmare.....

disregardable3 votes

  1. Did Olaf ult you? Okay. Back off for 6 seconds. Keep waiting. Is it gone? Ok good, go slaughter him.

  2. She has very little health. Kill her fast. Ok.

  3. You...don't have to do that.

Arcade Andrew2 votes

You realize this isnt a OMG THEY ARE SO OP this is for you do delve into kits that you think shouldnt be in league,

I dont care if olaf's kit is on olaf or janna ,

I think the idea of super sustain that gets better the lower you get + the ability to build tank then ignore basic forms of CC is toxic to core gameplay values, such as winning a teamfight or 1v1ing an enemy laner

GiveMeTalonPlz3 votes

I dont think Olaf is OP in any way shape or form but thats a dumb answer lol.

"back off" from the guy who is most likely faster than you, cant be CCed and has near permaslow if he isnt scrubby with his axes.

Also its not like he is useless in 1v1 without an ult at all.

disregardable2 votes

He's not support level useless, but he isn't going to 3v1 anyone without it. The amount of times I've seen people collapse on Olaf and give him a triple is just ridiculous. Just. Don't. Go. In.

Der Lindwurm3 votes

Katarina HAI PPL please just stand in my ult and pretend like you can't do anything even though all you have to do is move and don't even think about stunning or silencing me.

DanofDemacia1 votes

Not every champion has a stun or silence and even then they aren't insant.

XeroKimo3 votes

Teemo Cassiopeia Twitch Singed - All have poison in their kits therefore toxic

Cloud2732 votes

Any sort of "untarget" abilities.

Arcade Andrew1 votes

You mean like something you cant target or something that auto targets you that you cant run away from?

ModAcademy Kayn1 votes

Sona If she is in Q range, she's in AA range. Good luck avoiding damage.

atomicwit2 votes

I really hate playing vs Vlad and Trynd but I wouldn't say they're broken.

Transgressor2 votes

Viktor He does way too much way too good for my personal taste, and thanks to his "rework" his power gets further highlighted with gimmics. Trundle His entire kit revolves in him buffing himself to the point when you just can't fight him. That's the only thing he has going for him. Fizz Overloaded kit plus a double gap closing AoE damaging and slowing item 3157 that makes him untargetable every 8 seconds at max rank Draven I just never liked how powerfull his Q is, his past and present passive his kit in general is bad. His R is a really cool consept though. Heimerdinger One might be the worst player in the history of LoL, all one has to do is put down all their turrets and all of a sudden one has an -"autopushing autodamaging you-can't-get-close-to-me-" area on demand and there's nothing you can do about it without getting damaged and/or wasted cooldowns and mana. Anivia Her whole kit is bad and outdated, and her only justification is her lack of mobility. R=Massive AoE DPS Slow on-demand ability on a really short cooldown that costs mana per second which gets negated thanks to her itemization... WHAT?!?! Who thought this was a good idea?! Tryndamere His whole kit screams "BUUUUUUUUUULSHIT". Cassiopeia Same with the guy above. Malzahar 1. Step one: find a motherfucker 2. Step 2: press all your buttons 3. Step 3: delete a motherfucker Step 4: profit

Arcade Andrew1 votes

trundle kit is toxic AF once trundle gets to 30mins+ in the game he is A: the most annoying split pusher or B: an unkillable annoyance in fights

Fizz isnt that bad he used to be toxic then riot nerfed the hell out of his kit and now his kit is alright

dravens new kit is not toxic to others but more toxic to your team his old passive was fine and usefull all game but now his new passive gives him extra gold which is great early game but that passive isnt worth it once you get a full build

heimers kit: agreed why tf should somebody get to sit back and place turrets down and farm idc if he is op or not and has counters I hate that kit with a passion

GetBoomedOn1 votes

Mundo is just annoying as fuck. Let's make a tank who regens all his shit back when you spent 81 minutes 1v5ing him to wittle down his health lol. All jokes.

Arcade Andrew1 votes

His abilities use health at least but you can counter that by over regening (his burning agony forever on, same thing with singed poison trail)

Rikari1 votes

Top Lane Chogath Jungle JarvanIV Mid Lane Yasuo ADC Kalista Support Alistar No In flight snacks,other than nuts.

Arcade Andrew1 votes

but what in the kits make it so bad?

top lane cho can be countered by quinn or teemo, j4 cant jungle against a good nunu taking all the dragons yasuo can be outranged and unless he is good at farming under tower will fall very behind

point taken on kal's kit

and ali's kit the only thing I see wrong with it and it being toxic is IT HEALS EVERYTHING

not just one person it will heal every and every minion pet ect around, and he is the only champion with that kind of pressure to be able to mass heal minions screwing up the enemies last hits

DanofDemacia1 votes

Your wrong about the yasou

Sir ArmaMalum1 votes

Well as far as numbers go Poppy actually has the most "overpowered" kit. You just don't see her played much because her kit is relatively clunky and she doesn't work amazingly well in any specific comps.

It's largely due to her passive and ultimate. Neither of which are horrible on their own, but together you can build her glass cannon and effectively have 50% DR with her passive and then have an invincibility period if you somehow get low.

Shadow Gilgamesh1 votes

"OP" varies a lot as the game changes and makes the best champs change a lot, occasionally resulting in a truly OP champ like 4.20 Godwick, but there's deffinately OVERLOADED kits, and I'd say LeeSin is the king of that right now.

Broken is literally Riven as to be fully utilized you have to know about a borderline exploit.

And cancerous is Kalista, because like, christ, have fun never hitting skillshots, never being able to contest drag and baron if they start it, have slows mean nothing, and be incapable of ever catching her.

Arcade Andrew1 votes

Agreed on lee's kit, THERES so much in his kit that could be removed

riven: her kit would be fine if she was mana based not CD based

kalista's kit is somewhat balanced, the hops are tricky and I dont like playing kalista because of them, I cant kite very well when I'm hopping everywhere not smoothly running.

Maximum Zilean1 votes

Teemo

There is no other answer.

Metikulus1 votes

Nidalee is the most toxic champion in the game. I actually think the jungle is fine for her. It fits her theme and playstyle the best, I think. However, when she lanes, it is just freaking retarded. She has 0 counterplay. She lacks any lane interaction. All she does is sit back and chuck spears. Even if she misses 90% of them, she just has to wait for that one spear to land before getting a ridiculous 700 range gap close, chunking your HP by half or more for no mana cost at all.

Arcade Andrew1 votes

This is not a "qq this champ is OP thread" this is kits or kit ideas regardless of champions stats and strength that are toxic

IcyPepper1 votes

ADC autoattacks. There's no counterplay when an adc can walk up to me and attack for 400 base damage that can crit alongside on-hit effects and there's nothing I can do about it!

Arcade Andrew1 votes

you can do that with anyone with a proper build

and negate it with armor

I think its toxic that riot still hasnt made mages autos scale with AP

example annie: hurling a a fireball at you is physical damage? or ryze, casted autos (that dont involve physical things) should scale with ap not AD

IcyPepper2 votes

I was just joking :P

Thing is that AP is for nuking and burst damage, while AD is typically sustained damage that outscales burst after a couple seconds. You can build item 3115 item 3100 of course, but still. At least their autos deal damage based on AP against towers.

Arcade Andrew1 votes

crits are still stupid, nothing should be luck based when it comes to auto attacks

Saianna1 votes

LeeSin Duel vs Lee? Is he losing? R in your face Chasing Lee? R in your face or ward hops trough wall Running Away? Get the boot in your face with his Q Did Lee finish his Hydra? No? Press W to lifesteal.

Zed Ganking Zed. What hahaha. Press E. No. Do you have Zhyona? Yes. On CD? Yes. Dead

Nidalee Spear. Missed. Spear. Missed. Spear. Missed. Spear. Hit. Half HP gone. > R > W > E > Garens ultimate 2.0 [Q] Chasing Nid? What hahaha. Press W. No

Katarina ...Because there's no kill like overkill.

doiminat0r36001 votes

Yasuo : INFINITE PASSIVES Riven : oh, youve almost killed me? Let me shield with my AD scaling shield with a 2 second cooldown Vladimir : I can dodge everything and I dont use mana LeeSin : do i need to explain?

qetzel1 votes

I dislike Poppy's kit. Her passive is just stupid. It makes her so tanky without building any defenses. There was a reason Kha got the damage reduction from his ultimate removed - damage reduction on an assassin is not good, and Poppy plays like an assassin. I agree with Riot when they say health should represent tankiness. And her ultimate is the epitome of "no counterplay". She just runs away from the person she ultimates and into the rest of the team and there is very little you can do about it except for run yourself - but she has a speed boost for that. I know she isn't really strong, but she is stupid.

Who else??? I don't really like Yorick in lane for obvious reasons. I don't like Urgot very much in the early-mid game - too much depends upon one skillshot. And anyone really feast or famine. Talon and Akali are the two worst offenders here.

AFK Push1 votes

I mostly just hate Riven and Nidalee as a top main. I usually don't lose lane to them, but when I am winning lane it is so freaking hard to actually catch them for a kill. League of low cooldown resourceless gapclosers.

LadyRenly1 votes

There is literally nothing wrong with Thresh. He may be "overloaded" but that is because he is completely useless if no one can take advantage of his plays, unlike...idk, "supports" like Annie or Lux who can just build straight AP and kill things

Linna Excel1 votes

The devs toolkit which contains:

Passive - The broken bot spyware on our machines Q - Morello's nerf bat (deals bonus % max health true damage to OP champs) W - The Needs Nerf Alarm which can't see Lee Sin (gives devs vision of OP champs, can't see a lee sin that kicked them in the nuts) E - The Rework Wrench of Bad Direction (half the time they get a rework wrong in terms of direction, RNG OP)The Rework Wrench of Bad Direction (half the time they get a rework wrong in terms of direction and the kit becomes bad, RNG OP) R - The data program that told them this seasons jungle would be a good idea (gives everyone a cinderhulk)

IllusoryLumines1 votes

Rengar I think this champion just takes the cake, especially before his rework.

I mean, he's an assassin, but can instagib from stealth(huge deal), but also gets to be able to deal sustained damage from his attackspeed from Q, gets lane sustain from his W, gets huge amounts of tankiness from his normal W, gets both soft and hard CC(it's a root but it's close enough), etc.

Not to mention how he's completely resourceless. Basically for an "instagib from stealth" assassin he has A LOT of things in his kit that wouldnt be fine even on a normal assassin with mana, let alone one with stealth.

Nameless Voice1 votes

Toxic kits:

Yasuo Completely anti-skillshot champion. He can dash around like crazy, block projectiles with his windwall, and then has a free shield to protect himself with for what few projectiles can actually get through. Add to that no resource cost and high health regeneration to produce the most toxic kit in the game.

LeeSin Too many skills that do everything. A gap-closer with strong execute, a free escape tool on a separate skill that allows ward-hopping, and a low-cooldown, no-cost, high-damage ultimate with massive CC/reposition. He's also a master duellist with strong ganks, clear time, etc.. To me however, the real problem with his kit is his huge safety and margin for error. He can miss his Q, then drop a ward behind you and ward-hop and still kick you into his team. He can duel most people, but if he starts to lose, he can just kick you away, or ward-hop to safety, or kick-jump to a jungle camp. He has too many options to recover from the mistakes that he makes.

Kalista A free hop on every autoattack. There's not really much more to say. It makes really binary situations where she's either weak (you outrange her) or you can't beat her at all (you are mêlée), where she is safe from you (you have skillshots) or has to be afraid of you (you have targetted CC.) Quite frankly, that passive should never have been placed on a champion. I also personally hate playing with her on my my team if I'm the support, too. An extremely annoying hard-CC that you can't cancel or avoid that leaves your character uncontrollable for a large chunk of time at the start of the match (initial soul binding), and her ultimate can just randomly pick you up at odd times without much clear warning and invites flaming ("10% HP Nami, why didn't you use my ultimate to initiate into the enemy team?!").

Fizz Untargetability is a somewhat annoying mechanic, but it's okay in the case where it allows a champion a little longer to live to get off one more spell rotation, before you can collapse on them. But that is not Fizz. Fizz is a burst mage, who can unload his entire kit on you, and then become untargetable so that you cannot retaliate. Plus his untargetability also allows him to move away from danger and is on a very low cooldown, and is not his only gapcloser. Compare to Vlad's pool - Vlad can hit you with some medium-strength spells and then pool to avoid damage, but his pool costs him a large chunk of his own health, has a massive cooldown, and he can't move very fast while in the pool so he's still fully vulnerable when it ends. Lissandra's ult and Zhonya's are both long-cooldown and don't allow movement. Elise's Rappel has a massive cooldown and is also her main gapcloser, so she usually has to blow it to initiate. It's also in-place or at least predictable-movement. Each of those untargetability skills have decided costs and limitations, while Fizz's is too cheap for him to use, especially on his burst-oriented kit.

Tryndamere Yeah, make fun of me if you want, but I just hate this guy's kit. It's really binary, where some champions can beat him, and others have no choice but to die if they meet him alone. Incredibly long invulnerability, an ability to stop you from running away while also lowering your damage output, and a spin combined with highest movespeed that makes him a master of running away. He has the annoying ability to choose to kill, and if he's willing to die himself, there's very little that they can do about it outside of a full-team teamfight (especially if they are a weaker champion like a support.) Nevermind that his kit does not match his fantasy (right now, he's a crazed berserker who pushes lanes and uses his rage to run away from fights.)

Zed This one isn't as bad as the others, but he still belongs here. He has too much in his kit, making him good at too many different things. I don't mind his assassination potential, but I hate all of the other strengths randomly tacked onto his kit. Cheap harass. Strong waveclear. Extreme tower-killing potential. Extremely easy last-hitting with his passive. Excessive safety with his ultimate's second activation, allowing him to escape freely if he initiates badly.

You'll note that nearly all of these have some form of ability to easily recover from their mistakes or to attack you with impunity in a way in which you can't really react to counter it. Those are the things that I hate to see in champion kits.

There are other champions who kits have issues, or who are badly tuned in terms of power, but the above are, in my option, the worse offenders in terms of kit design.

Rikari1 votes

Leblanc You can peel? Nice story. 2 seconds later... You think you got me? think again... 1 minute later... still in lane,unkillable

Br4ndon1 votes

Easily Blitzcrank.

All of his skills are always more valuable than your skills. Playing Lulu and landed that Q 10 times in lane? Great they had to use all their potions, youre zoning and poking. But when Blitz lands that 1 pull after missing his first 9, well their ADC is now 300g richer. The problem with blitz is that eventually he will land a pull, that pull might decide the entire game. His pull feel more impactful and valuable than anything any other support has. Even pulling a tank isnt all that bad. Now you have the enemies tank isolated in the middle of your team. Kill them then finish the 4v5.

I know he just got a little wrist slap but I think league would be a better game without blitzcrank.

Widder881 votes
  1. Kalista
  2. Azir
  3. Yasuo
  4. Nidalee
  5. Annie
  6. Le Blanc
  7. Fiora
  8. Vi
  9. Lee Sin
  10. Riven

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