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is LOL yet another Heroes of the Storm?

WolfChases··5 votes·945 views

I mean...seriously? After a long 5 days of 8 hour shifts from 09:00 to 17:00 I really want to enjoy this game during the weekend but I cant! I understand this is just a preseason but the entire game is heading the wrong direction. Turrets are utter garbage and can easily be removed, noone would notice it as I dived enemy Ziggs as Kindred jungle yesterday at lvl 5, killed him and survived. I snowballed so hard that I carried the game AS KINDRED. Everyone snowballs out of controll. For whatever reason Vayne is eating tanks EVEN FASTER, Zed iS SO STRONG RIGHT NOW that he doesn't even belong to this game, he simply does not fit (I am not an assassin hater, I am a former Zed main) I am not gonna list champion by champion but believe me, no metter what you pick, you dobt want to face that pantheon top because you are gonna die at minute 5 and lose your turret right after because turret is yet another tanky minion.

Games are short, if I want to play 20 minute games I would play HOS. I want to damn queue up and enjoy a 30+ minutes game, I want to reach that late game! Do not force me to end the game before min 30 mark.

17 Comments

SirΤeemο2 votes

kindred still exist?

WolfChases1 votes

Yea, damage is sick. Clear is good, poer spike at lvl 3 is awesome but shes weak midgame. If you manage to get a couple kills or assists midgame, you are monster late. Kindred is considered bad because of her passive that forces you to deep counterjungle but you dont have to. Take top and bot crab mark, take enemy gromp or raptor mark, at that point you have 3 marks + 5 marks from ganking (kills/assists) and you are gtg because 7-8 marks on Kindred is more than enough. Kindreds burst in jungle is insane, save your smite dor enemy camp, kill it and get outta there.

SirΤeemο1 votes

what runes makes him such a monster ?

WolfChases1 votes

Precision/Sorcery

SirΤeemο1 votes

more details? :P

WolfChases1 votes

Precision:

Press the attack - Its just easy for Kindred to proc that bonus damage alongside her E ability.

Triumph - goes well with her R

LEGEND tenacity - More tenacity = more free time for more damage output.

Coup the Grace - as Kindred does burst damage and is assassin like marksman it just goes well with her.

As for secondary runes you can go with sorcery but I would suggest you Domination:

  • 18% AS

Sudden impact - her Q is a dash/leap or whatever which means that you are going to proc that burst of lethality for your AD and Magic penetration for your Wolf

Second one is up to you, I go with zombie ward simply because of the vision control.

Kwattigor2 votes

panth top? pick a tanky sustain champ watch him cry as he cant run to abuse his burst you gotta remember his ult is not as usefull in 1v1 top as other ults making him essentially only have 3 abilities to fight top he also dont scale well at all and bout other champs doing to much damage i dont see that as a prob im adc main and get 6 items by around 30-35min every game and tanks still hard for me to bring down with strong builds to kill them aswell as can do some burst to kill me if i pos bad just play tankier champs if you dont like dying fast or get items like zhonya or gaurdian angel to combat high burst but as a adc main i dont see people bursting me as a big problem this season yet

Quepha2 votes

How is it heading in the wrong direction when this is only a single patch? One data point has no inherent direction.

Subject 51 votes

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How is it heading in the wrong direction when this is only a single patch? One data point has no inherent direction.

You're acting like there wasn't a previous patch or season to begin with, R U Go0d'uh?

Quepha1 votes

Last season was trending towards games that always went to lategame and early game didn’t make much of a difference. Gangplank and Kassadin were considered great for climbing in solo queue because their weak early game could rarely be exploited and they would just stall and scale.

Either you think the new patch represents a shift so you only have this one data point, or you consider previous patches and instead see a completely different trend with this patch as a single insignificant outlier.

Subject 51 votes

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Last season was trending towards games that always went to lategame and early game didn’t make much of a difference. Gangplank and Kassadin were considered great for climbing in solo queue because their weak early game could rarely be exploited and they would just stall and scale.

Either you think the new patch represents a shift so you only have this one data point, or you consider previous patches and instead see a completely different trend with this patch as a single insignificant outlier.

What game are you playing? The entire boards was bitching the entire season about how snowball the game is, and that they want games to last longer because games are decided in like the first 10 minutes. A patch can shift in a different direction based on the changes that are representing, well, a direction.

Assassin Patch Marksman Patch Tank Patch

All 1 patches that represent 1 single change that was directed in 1 single direction.

Quepha1 votes

They were complaining simultaneousky about the game being a snowball meta and an ardent censer meta, which are incompatible. If it’s a snowball meta then passive supports are not influential. If it’s an ardent meta then snowballing doesn’t matter because the game cones down to positioning in teamfights when both teams are running ardent.

The boards do things like this because there are a lot of nonsensical bandwagoners who parrot what they hear.

Subject 52 votes

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They were complaining simultaneousky about the game being a snowball meta and an ardent censer meta, which are incompatible. If it’s a snowball meta then passive supports are not influential. If it’s an ardent meta then snowballing doesn’t matter because the game cones down to positioning in teamfights when both teams are running ardent.

The boards do things like this because there are a lot of nonsensical bandwagoners who parrot what they hear.

Supports were able to snowball gold into an ardent item with an easy first buy - usually by 2nd back, which ended up with the adc being able to snowball into god-mode. This was the complaint throughout the season - as well as paper towers because of how snowball inducing the game was.

PowderToast1 votes

not to mention the fact I cannot even manage to have a single lane phase anymore for ADC mains like myself spent at least three years learning to farm Cs properly and now cannot because all the enemy wants to do is attack me and when they fail, then it's a three-four vs 2 or 1 bot lane that is impossible to stop.

JustMonika131 votes

I tried Press the Attack on Kindred once. Did poorly, I prefer Footwork as keystone tbh, no matter how much of a “meme” it is at this point.

WolfChases1 votes

Footwork is good as well but I find Press the attack slightly better because Kidnreds combo is fast and burst.

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