The 90% of the league community ask for lee nerfs they WANT lee nerfs they prove with every possible way that this champion is beyond broken with math/statistic/overload kits/etc
And for some reason riot ignores everyone and when a champion is close to hit 50% win ratio and he is a jungler he gets insta nerf! i am done with this game i am done with riot! for real this is disgusting..this behavior is retarded
destiny fan5 votesprobably most of the players on the boards are either bronze or low level players, most of them can never fight a lee sin because they're bad, most of them overextend early game giving lee sin an easy gank
A champion can't be declared OP with simple math, you can't just take ratios and other stuff and declare said champion overpowered, you need to consider the effect said champion has in games, how his power curve develops and how it evolves over the course of the match.
most people just jump into the lee sin nerf sheep like mentality and provide no real math or very biased and flawled math on why lee should be nerfed.
Phuc Dat Bich1 votes[{quoted}](name=destiny fan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=g501nlUa,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-02-23T00:50:43.153+0000)
probably most of the players on the boards are either bronze or low level players, most of them can never fight a lee sin because they're bad, most of them overextend early game giving lee sin an easy gank
A champion can't be declared OP with simple math, you can't just take ratios and other stuff and declare said champion overpowered, you need to consider the effect said champion has in games, how his power curve develops and how it evolves over the course of the match.
most people just jump into the lee sin nerf sheep like mentality and provide no real math or very biased and flawled math on why lee should be nerfed.
From old GD and from boards to reddit to every actually gameplay and LCS lee is picked or he consider broken! on every server on every elo!
Plus a guy create a post that put the 5 junglers that they are used at this point and LEE was outdamage everyone! plus his mobility! so that how the math shows!
And no for 3 years now people ask for lee nerfs and riot does nothing but the moment THE MOMENT a jungler is doing "good" he gets INSTA NERFED to the ground and never to be seen again!
Example WarWick an item make him good this champion was useless for 5 years and item make him good for 2 WEEKS and riot not only destroy the item THEY DESTROY the champion too!
But when lee is broken for 3 years now riot NERF the whole jungle nerf all other junglers nerf teh jungler items AND LEE RECIEVE NO NERFS
Do you see the difference?
WarWick after the devourer and the challenging smite nerfs he would be balanced but not riot goes ape $hit and nerf all his kit that was USELESS for 5 years!
That my problem with riot and lee sin and this is disgusting!
destiny fan1 votesthat post was purely about damage, having high damage potential doesn't make a champion overpowered, wu had less damage but he has more teamfighting power, pantheon has less damage but he has more map control and a reliable stun
Warwick used to be my main when i started playing, and unlike you i know the reason behind his nerfing, the smite interactions were uninteded, it was too powerful, botrk + red smite ultimate would almost instantly kill an ADC
Lee sin is not considered overpowered in all elos, if so, link posts of high level people complaining about lee sin
2000boxes3 votesso you are saying the people on the boards is 90% of the entire league of legends player base i would say something about this but i will just let you stay in your fantasy world
Neo Cyrus2 votesDespite being told that they don't care about win/loss rates that's not entirely true. Part of the reason why they won't nerf Lee is because he has a terrible win rate.
Edit: Downvoted for stating a fact? Stay Bronze.
Major Sparkles2 votes
Zydin2 votes50% win ratio would be balanced.
Half on one side - Wins
Half on the other - Losses
The definition of balance.
destiny fan1 voteson a fantasy world maybe, you can never archieve 50% winrate
Zydin1 votes[{quoted}](name=destiny fan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=g501nlUa,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2015-02-23T00:52:05.686+0000)
on a fantasy world maybe, you can never archieve 50% winrate
Getting a 50% winrate exact won't happen but thinking that someone is to strong because they are getting close to the 50% isn't reasonable. 76 of the 123 champions have over a 50% win rate in ranked play. Over this last month lee has had a 47% winrate coming in 110th place out of the 123 champs when it comes to winrate.
Sailor Mint2 votesLee Sin was going to get a rework but it was met with one of the biggest community backlash in LoL history (not just on these forums or reddit, everywhere). So instead of nerfing his early game and buffing his lategame, they nerfed Safeguard (CD on non-champions, shield duration) and removed his attack speed debuff.
The community wanted Lee Sin to keep his identity as a slippery early game monster that turns into a tanky initiator (Insec kicks) late game.
It's not because a local circle jerk is calling for nerfs that it's the opinion of the majority.
Ninjaboy14091 votesThey are too blind to see that yo
vIbvdOwbko1 votes90% of community = the retarded, circlejerking low elos that complain on these boards
yeah. it looks like we got to nerf lee sin!!!!!111111
ModKnightsKemplar1 votesShow me supposed 90% you are pulling out of a hat. I'd like to see actual, credible numbers on that.