Stop trying to pump power into darius E passive and W

Tychusfindlay918··12 votes·5,965 views

This kind of shit only encourages the toxic tri force build and further disincentivizes darius players from going cleaver and caring about decimate.

At some point you're just going to have E > AA > W > AA > R become his main combo while q is something he thinks about if the enemy doesn't happen to be in melee range.

Scrap the PBE buffs.

If you're intent on him being better in pro play (With the added bonus of not breaking low elo), then these are the kinds of changes you would make:

E 15 range nerf reverted (back to 550 as it was when darius was released) Decimate missing health heal from 12% at all ranks to 10%/11%/12%/13%/14% Rank 5 decimate unlocks champion healing cap (currently set at 3 champions on live)


I guarantee you those changes above wouldn't be felt even the tiniest bit in the lower elos while giving darius something to look forward to in higher elos while also bringing back much healthier cleaver tank builds that don't force darius into this toxic "I'm going to build to try and just one-shot this motherfucker with my E > AA > W > Q > R combo, and if it doesn't work, I die hard or have enough attack speed to get noxian might anyways"

The early game decimate heal nerf would also make him a little bit more bearable in lane and allow people to feel like they can trade back a little better into him while the darius gets to feel better after decimate is maxed out and if he lands a clutch 4+ man decimate in a teamfight (which isn't as rare as some people think when darius isn't the only frontline in the game, WHICH WAS THE INTENDED WAY TO COMP WITH DARIUS).

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Verxint3 votes

In general if they want to buff Darius (don't know why but shrug), they should give him more reliability and teamfight survivability (which is what you suggested) instead of more damage. Darius has more than enough damage to do his job.

Moody P2 votes

virgin cleaver vs chad triforce has always been and always will be the only truth

Tychusfindlay9183 votes

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virgin cleaver vs chad triforce has always been and always will be the only truth

The omegachad nerfhammer will eventually rear its godly head and turn both builds into shit when Tyrone uses it to whack darius into uselessness on Chang's command

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Moody P1 votes

that's an awfully optimistic depiction of them great image, this will own the alt righters for sure

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

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The omegachad nerfhammer will eventually rear its godly head and turn both builds into shit when Tyrone uses it to whack darius into uselessness on Chang's command

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DarukongSr1 votes

I sorta agree (although I love triforce build), although perhaps a nice buff instead would to reduce the delay on q with level all the way down to 0 by like lvl 11 or 16 so that he isn't such an inept ignoramous late game. The delay is really to provide counterplay during lane, but it's way overkill out of lane.

Tychusfindlay9181 votes

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I sorta agree (although I love triforce build), although perhaps a nice buff instead would to reduce the delay on q with level all the way down to 0 by like lvl 11 or 16 so that he isn't such an inept ignoramous late game. The delay is really to provide counterplay during lane, but it's way overkill out of lane.

No, because reducing the delay would have it synergize more with attack speed.

The Q delay has an inverse scaling with attack speed. The more AS you get, the less you are incentivized to use Q, and that's good.

Darius was never meant to have a lot of attack speed; it breaks certain core aspects of his kit design, namely that he needs time to ramp up to noxian might.

Sire Hippington1 votes

Agree, especially the increased damage on W feels wrong. If they really think he needs more damage, they should increase the Q damage on blade hit some more, that atleast has counterplay for both rnaged and melee and should be his bread and butter skill. Though i'd pefer survivabillity/utillity buffs as the once you suggest over damage.

I personally would love to see his noxian might bonus ad be removed or atleast cut in half in favour of some more upfront power on passive and ult and maybe some small ms boost per bleed stack on a champion(1%per stack capping at 20% maybe), so you're not as screwed against him if you can't disengage(like it is the case for most other fighters and tanks) and he's a bit more usfull even if not allowed to reach max stacks.

AggressiveWolf1 votes

I one tricked Darius up to Diamond and I have to say, only a dumb ass would look at Darius and buff his damage. He deals enough damage, buff his survivability. Buff his Q healing to 15%, increase the cap to 4 or even 5 champions. Lower his E cooldown. Make his passive give 1% move speed per mark (does not stack, so 5% maximum, further champion stacks have no effect). Tiny buff that help in high elo where he gets kited.

When I got placed in Silver and went up vs Darius's, I would win because they wouldnt try hitting me with the edge or I would dodge Q/E. What your doing now is basically removing the punishment for missing Q by super pumping his easy to hit damage. Why?

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