"Nasus struggles late game"

General Esdeath ··2 votes·831 views

"Better buff his early and mid game by removing the weakness of Q CD instead of reworking him to have some actual damage on his E instead of % armor shred"

Riot balance team strikes again. This is almost as good as the Fizz buff note.

34 Comments

ZephyrDrake4 votes

people will look for literally every single little dumb thing to complain about

Escheton3 votes

But Nasus doesn't want dmg on his E unless it's ARAM and he goes full AP. He does have a bad lategame. Like most Juggernauts. Because thats when champions sit on 40% cdr and just cc lock him till he's dead. His early game can still be shut down to delay his midgame powerspike. His lane counters still counter him.

He takes objectives like a beast and is quite good at 1v1's once he has 45% and a completed sheen item. But thats about it.

Shut him down early or stall out the game till he's useless.

General Esdeath 1 votes

Problem is even if you beat him in lane and try to stall, any and every stack count towards his power. Sometimes my bot gets rolled and I have to roam down to help them. That's his free stacking time.

BeatzBoyFTW3 votes

Reminder that unlike Renekton, Nasus is still kitable af.

General Esdeath 1 votes

Nasus hits W hits you once Procs Stormraider's Becomes The Fast

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes
  • item 3140
  • it's single target only. At least Nautilus provides AoE knock-ups & slows, and Malphite provides AoE attack speed slow with his E.
General Esdeath 1 votes
  • You know he can cast it again in 8 seconds, right?
  • "X can do it better" is not justifiable counterplay
BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

It depends on wtf were you even doing during that 8 seconds. Plus, his mana cost on both his W & E aren't cheap at all.

General Esdeath 1 votes

Except CDR Nasus gets item 3025 which gives him more than enough mana to sit in lane and slow you

Dominick Destine3 votes

Nasus is pretty solid now.

Not sure what this thread is even about.

General Esdeath 1 votes

About Riot adding 2 buffs at the same time and overdoing it

Dominick Destine1 votes

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About Riot adding 2 buffs at the same time and overdoing it

Maybe you're right and Nasus needs nerfs, but I'd rather give it more than a couple of days to make my decision.

General Esdeath 1 votes

I'll gladly wait, just putting my 2 cents out now.

A Vel Koz Main2 votes

Then quit the game like a lot of people are. Riot won't miss us til we're all gone and they've spent all our money, then they'll think twice about balance decisions, but wait, of course.. what am I saying, a bunch of sheep play this game.

Colton1473 votes

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Then quit the game like a lot of people are. Riot won't miss us til we're all gone and they've spent all our money, then they'll think twice about balance decisions, but wait, of course.. what am I saying, a bunch of sheep play this game.

I for one wouldn't want people who think bullying is okay to play the game...

A Vel Koz Main1 votes

I'm not bullying, i'm stating a fact, if you really wanna talk about bullies not playing the game, tell that to riot, you know.. the ones who let trolls freely ruin hundreds of games and ban the people who use self defense. "ok"

ThePikol2 votes
  • who said nasus struggle late?
  • his Q cd is reduced only during ult. not all the time
General Esdeath 1 votes
  • They think the issue of his late game is his Q CD, but it's just that tanks late game get shredded.
  • I know, but with 45% CDR it's on a 60 second CD
Hexs Fortune1 votes

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  • They think the issue of his late game is his Q CD, but it's just that tanks late game get shredded.
  • I know, but with 45% CDR it's on a 60 second CD

He still gets shredded, even through his ult

General Esdeath 1 votes

Exactly, so they put more power into offense while they should focus on defense.

Ravenous Howls2 votes

Nasus only usually can reach tanks. The % shred is to make sure his damage matters, He is a late game hyper carry melee, and his Q CD, only during ults which is 15 seconds of power by the way in melee range, is to allow him to do relevant damage against armor stacking high health front lines. It makes sure the tanks can't just ignore him and go for the back line. Before even at 800 stacks against full armor tanks with 4000+ HP would maybe do 200-300 damage.

Nasus needed this change and his win rate is only in relation to his mains. His pick rate is around 5% which is the approx player base that plays him regularly. There are plenty of other champion that do his level of damage while being mobile while having decent early games through late. Olaf, Fiora, Jax, Riven and Pantheon to name a few. Pantheon, even late game hold above a 50% win rate for his absurd 54% win rate early to a 52% win rate late.

Stop bitching about a champion with an atrocious early game who was in desperate need of some love.

General Esdeath 1 votes

No thanks, I liked the big guy too but this was just ridiculous, especially with that passive that was made for his weak lane phase.

Ravenous Howls1 votes

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No thanks, I liked the big guy too but this was just ridiculous, especially with that passive that was made for his weak lane phase.

It isn't ridiculous in the slightest seeing how all of his weaknesses are in tact. He is sitting at 49% win rate. Balanced is the name of the game here. I mean I do not enjoy Patheon sitting at a 54-52% win rate regardless of game length but I am not calling for nerfs either.

General Esdeath 1 votes

Why not call for both? :^)

Ravenous Howls2 votes

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Why not call for both? :^)

Why don't you stop shit posting and actually learn how to play the game? Calling for nerfs on a champion who is not widely played who sits on a balanced 49% win rate is not a point of debate it is a point of your bias.

General Esdeath 1 votes

Because being super strong unless your team gets rolled is balanced Kappa

Ravenous Howls1 votes

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Because being super strong unless your team gets rolled is balanced Kappa

He has to fight and claw his way to relevance vs almost any adversary top?! He only gets strong eventually and if you can not force 4v5 while he tries to farm or make better plays in team fights that's on you.

General Esdeath 1 votes

Except that means it's up to my team to

A) Win so we can 5v4 B) Actually group up for that 5v4

Ravenous Howls1 votes

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Except that means it's up to my team to

A) Win so we can 5v4 B) Actually group up for that 5v4

Go figure, it's a team game?

hoganftw2 votes

Gnar still exists and he recently got buffed.

General Esdeath 1 votes

To be fair that's because he's in LCS a lot

Vizulix1 votes

YESS. MY MAIN HAS RETURNED. VEIGAR YOU CAN GO ON VACATION NOW. NASUS YOU'RE UP. LETS Q SMACK SOME CHAMPIONS.

General Esdeath 1 votes

"You deny the darkness in your soul!"

Sasogwa1 votes

% armor shred and % CD reduction are all lategame tools, they're not flat damage but % damage to scale with his stacks, the % armor pen becomes more and more valuable as the game progresses due to armor buys and natural armor/lvl growth, so purely lategame actually. More damage on E would be an early/midgame buff. Maybe the numbers are slightly off (especially the R changes, a bit too strong at lvl 6 and 11) ; but the problem is not the early/midgame nature of the changes... at all.

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