Shouldnt matchmaking work based on rank before anything else?

Paroe·Jul 6, 2017·1 votes·260 views

Low queue times may be important to a lot of people but.... if game qaulity suffers what does it matter? Thats like a restaurant prioritizing quantity over quality.

Can matchmaking work by Micro rank (same rank and tier) ----> Macro rank (same rank) ---> One rank down (tier 1)--> One rank up (tier 5) ---> MMR? I just... Im fine waiting five minutes for a good qaulity game. The BEST games i have are when ranks are similar.

Matchmaking should just be a LOT more strict than it is i feel.

6 Comments

TakazakiJul 6, 20171 votes

match making is based on team average MMR, and MMR isnt accurately represented by leauge+division.

Starcraft243verJul 6, 20171 votes

No. Matchmaking do not even look at ranks because ranks are just a shiny thing they give you because bragging about being gold is more impressive than saying "I'm at ELO 1456".

Your system could be abused so easily : you just need to leave your promos lobby forever to stay bronze. With the actual system if you are a diamond leaving every promo, you still end up playing with diamonds. And that's good.

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752954

ParoeJul 6, 20171 votes

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No. Matchmaking do not even look at ranks because ranks are just a shiny thing they give you because bragging about being gold is more impressive than saying "I'm at ELO 1456".

Your system could be abused so easily : you just need to leave your promos lobby forever to stay bronze. With the actual system if you are a diamond leaving every promo, you still end up playing with diamonds. And that's good.

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752954

In this case you make a flag for people who purposefully do worse in their promos or (more realistically) make non-communication and feeding a much heavier report for people in their promos. Also, those kind of smurfs are bannable offense. Pubstomper accounts arent kosher.

With the current system we have proven that the method used to match make is terrible and leads to VERY low qaulity games in favor of shorter queue times. By using MMR last (after say 5 minutes) you would have better ranked reliability and be much more likely to get an even game, barring climbing smurfs.

Starcraft243verJul 7, 20171 votes

n this case you make a flag for people who purposefully do worse in their promos or (more realistically) make non-communication and feeding a much heavier report for people in their promos.

They dont, they juste have to dodge their promo to never climb in rank. :)

With the current system we have proven that the method used to match make is terrible and leads to VERY low qaulity games in favor of shorter queue times.

You have proven nothing, wtf. Saying something isnt proving it. I personally think the matchmaking is actually really good. There's a lot of thing an algorithm can't forecast. The ELO system might not be perfect but it's WAY better than any rank based system you could think of. It's used in a lot of games like chess or go, it's not like it's riot's own creation.

ParoeJul 8, 20171 votes

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You have proven nothing, wtf. Saying something isnt proving it. I personally think the matchmaking is actually really good. There's a lot of thing an algorithm can't forecast. The ELO system might not be perfect but it's WAY better than any rank based system you could think of. It's used in a lot of games like chess or go, it's not like it's riot's own creation.

Riot doesnt match by ELO.... they match with MMR. If they matched by ELO - your rank - then this wouldnt even BE a problem.

Starcraft243verJul 10, 20171 votes

Wtf ? xD

Ranks = division/league

ELO = MMR. The MMR is based on the ELO system (created for the chess), it's just riot decided to call it "MMR".

Please, for now, before typing anything, can you check that you actually know what you are talking about ? I mean, i'm not against debating, but you have to at least know the basics of the topic then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system