They all have enough damage to be a threat to the enemy adc on their own, but have trouble surviving late game fights due to ldr + black cleaver. I miss when tanks were low damage and extreme tankiness, rather than having moderate damage. Bruisers right now feel like assassins.
SlaktarTasken15 votesThank damage creep. Going full tank is just utterly worthless outside of organized/high level play because you become 100% reliant on your team to follow up on your engage to dish out the damage, also while you peel.
Thus many tanks now (actually ever since S6 and the introduction of all of these retarded dmg amplyfying master not to mention flat and scaling dmg keystones) opt for more bruiseresque if not even assassinlike builds 
to ensure they can at least get something done before they melt like butter being cut by a hot knife.
Penns2 votesYeah those 3-4 retarded damage amp masteries giving you 5 extra damage each mid game on your spells make tanks useless and melt in less than 1 second Kappa
Ralanr12 votesExtra damage against no extra defenses adds up.
Penns1 votesBut it doesnt really add up against 250-300 armor tanks. I dont see how "damage creep" from masteries made tanks die in 1 second lol.
Ralanr11 votesUse the penetration formula from Lord Doms. Plus damage creep hurt squishies more than tanks because it made squishies die easier.
And the complaint was 2 seconds, not one.
Penns1 votesI never see tanks die in 2 seconds unless they either went like 0/7 or get focused by 5 people + some ults, which means 1) he wins the fight because they used everything for the tank or 2) his team is useless..
RexSaur3 votesThank damage creep. Going full tank is just utterly worthless outside of organized/high level play because you become 100% reliant on your team to follow up on your engage to dish out the damage, also while you peel.
Thus many tanks now (actually ever since S6 and the introduction of all of these retarded dmg amplyfying master not to mention flat and scaling dmg keystones) opt for more bruiseresque if not even assassinlike builds
Tanks used to be like that in season 2 and they were very good.
Having CC + being able to initate is more than good enough, they do not need to do bruiser damage so they can 1v3 the backline alone, tanks should be like adcs very weak when alone.
Ralanr6 votesTanks used to be like that in season 2 and they were very good.
Having CC + being able to initate is more than good enough, they do not need to do bruiser damage so they can 1v3 the backline alone, tanks should be like adcs very weak when alone.
A lot of tanks are built to solo lane/jungle so...
Sire Hippington10 votesTanks always had enough damage to be a threat on the enemy adc on their own though(exept of some that focus on self peel like vayne). The basic concept of adc is(or was) that they have rather stupid damage baut are vulnerable and need protection from their team.
The difference is that tanks once needed multiple rotations and quite some time to do so, but they also lived long enough. Now tanks kill squishys rather fast, but also die quite fast them self.
KoggyStyle8 votesall cuase esport monkeys dident like it when tanks.... tanked.
ForgiveColour1 votesThen clearly were not watching the same esports where tanks are doing the opposite of everything you guys are saying
Xonra4 votesNot dying isn't the same as "tanking". You see Mao go in, and live forever, but he is also just diving on the adc and tossing around damage like a bruiser. There is rarely peel, and sure there is cc, but it is usually to dive onto the adc and ignore the rest of the team trying to stop them.
Most tanks in competitive play have become divers (like Mao), and do what Divers should do (like Vi) except live longer. Being "Tanky" isn't the same as being a tank play style wise.
ForgiveColour1 votes???????
Xonra1 votesGood response
Jbels5 votesI was playing Sion yesterday and hiding in a bush with 150 health left, with nothing but a cinderhulk and deadman's plate. Jhin facechecked it, ate a fully charged Q, and then I proceeded to 100-0 him. Tanks are fiiiiine
Ben Sharpio3 votesbecause sion Q'ing from an unwarded bush isn't predictable at all and has 0 counterplay
Escheton3 votes[{quoted}](name=l Sion Bot l,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=flLEImP3,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-02-14T12:39:55.086+0000)
because sion Q'ing from an unwarded bush isn't predictable at all
It is, which is why you hard facecheck, duck and roll under him while his arms are raised, then laugh while he waits for cooldowns.
Glory ln Death2 votesBecause anyone using any ability from an unwarded bush isn't predictable at all and has 0 counterplay.
Spoofghoul2 votesThat is not Sion's fault
he just likes to stomp worms
maybe said worm should've left that brush alone
Ralanr7 votesWho facechecked the bush?
Ralanr3 votesNot really surprising then. Sion has a lot of damage due to being very telegraphed and Jhin is really squishy.
Jbels1 votesNot really surprising then. Sion has a lot of damage due to being very telegraphed and Jhin is really squishy.
In all seriousness, it's his fault for facechecking, and his bad luck that it was a Sion main. Most other Sion players would have run instead of kill him
Glory ln Death4 votes[{quoted}](name=A Koichi Pose,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=flLEImP3,comment-id=00000002000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-14T16:55:35.949+0000)
Most other Sion players would have run instead of kill him
COOOOWWWWWAAAAAAAAARRRRRDDDDDSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!
Jbels1 votes[{quoted}](name=Glory ln Death,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=flLEImP3,comment-id=000000020000000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-14T23:23:31.573+0000)
COOOOWWWWWAAAAAAAAARRRRRDDDDDSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!
I love this guy xD
Danjeng1 votesYou can't facecheck if you don't have a face like Jhin.
TheHappyReaperz2 votesRemember old Poppy? That was a tank who was also a burst assassin. I much prefer the way tanks are now, then how they used to be.
XeroKimo2 votesI had a full tank v tank top game yesterday....... was fun..... ALL THE WET NOODLE FIGHTS!!!! 15 second battles, still none of us died, and then either team came and either of us die in 4 seconds
Xonra2 votesI miss when tanks were "I may never kill you, but you will NOT get to my adc"
Instead of "I'm just going to dive onto your adc, kill them, and then never die unless you have multiple champions with Lethality to burst me down before my team kills you"
9kPluzZ2 votesWukong is actually a legit assassin
A Basic Island1 votesThey all have enough damage to be a threat to the enemy adc on their own
which they should be if the adc just stands there.
Xonra1 votesAs if the adc needs to "just stand there".
Good luck getting away from Sion or Mao as an adc if they want to get to you.
IA9hRfpP5q1 votes
can't lose a trade
high mobility , true damage, 80% slow , high cc, low mana costs
But she's fine because she's melee.
TheHappyReaperz3 votesAlso, not a tank.
deadlychuck2 votesShe actually loses quite a few trades when up against 
Turns out being able to completely block the 2nd Q is pretty good against her.
ZT Xperimentor1 votesMostly becuase riot's been buffing damage but not durability. Why build tanky when you get blown up in a couple seconds anyway?
Yaskamasandwich1 votesHence forth Vanguard update is happening instead of diver update. Which will hopefully fix all of the tank's item issues. Also it should help pave the wave for the diver update and future updates. Since a lot of bruisers, divers, and even skirmishers are abusing tank items. The damage masteries are getting nerfed too which will promote tanks being more like tanks, bruisers being bruisers, and hopefully assassins being assassins.
SiG DxD1 votes
what
Linna Excel1 votesBruisers have to build a damage item or two in order to deal damage, tanks don't.
6Sfool1 votesI miss it too. Not to say I want all true tanks to lose any hope of dealing damage, but to deal damage, you should have to build damage. At LEAST a triforce or a titanic.
Praetor Notorias1 votesTanks were always like that. If they weren't, then you could just flat out ignore the tank and they'd be fairly useless without 4 or 5 CC abilities. A tank that isn't a threat is at best only a distraction.
