So today with two games i've already gotten one with an afker (AGAIN) and a garen who let nasus farm to 400 stacks in laning phase. I cannot find a way out of this league. Is there any actual way to win games in this league when you always have an afker or troll?
Treeofwar1 votesthere are many ways but its harder for a jg to carry a team
Eedat1 votesDisagree. Jungle is a good role to carry from
Treeofwar1 votesDisagree. Jungle is a good role to carry from
i disagree with you. you have a much easier time carrying from mid when fed or adc or even a carry top lane but when you are playing a jg you have to rely on your team to follow up on your ganks which in bronze is a bit harder than lets say plat where map awareness is actually there
Eedat1 votesNot true. As a Jungle, you have the power to impact the entire map early. Pick a good snowbally jungler and make good decisions and you win games
Treeofwar1 votesNot true. As a Jungle, you have the power to impact the entire map early. Pick a good snowbally jungler and make good decisions and you win games
you still need your team to go in with your ganks im just telling him that a bronze jg will be a harder job than a bronze mid laner.
Eedat1 votesThats again not true. I get kills every game without assistance from laners
The Whamboozler1 votesYes... and no.
Jungle has the most influence on the game of nearly anyone. Where he chooses to gank and how well he does can make or break games. You can shut down that top lane Yasuo or Nasus by pitching a tent up there. You can bully a lane that would otherwise stomp early and let your own lane hold out until their late-game power spikes. You can snowball your team or attempt to sit on and prevent an enemy who is likely to snowball and you are the main person who is responsible for objectives... and objectives win games.
This however is a double-sided coin. The jungler can also snowball games against his team harder than almost anyone. I've seen more games decided by one team having a VERY good jungler than nearly any other role. A good jungler snowballs his entire team and takes every objective. A bad jungler snowballs the entire ENEMY team and loses them all. He can also just plain ignore objectives and lanes while the enemy jungler puts in work... leading to a game where the jungler hasn't died once but the enemy is still massively ahead because he didn't do anything to respond to the aggressive plays of the enemy. Jungle has the most impact on the entire team for good AND for ill.
Making it worse... the jungler has a hard time carrying bad teams. Even a good jungler can fail if his laners are bad... or he picks the wrong one to sink his effort into helping. It's like being a support in that you tend to lack gold and are VERY dependent on another person to succeed. In the support's case it's the adc, but the jungler needs to rely on his laners to follow up on ganks, help him if he's invaded or tries to rush an objective/get a pick in the jungle. A jungler with self-absorbed laners is going to HATE HIS LIFE, since he's isolated from his team but still VERY reliant on them for help. Tanky support junglers especially struggle if they people they are trying to get fed are just unable to do anything with the gold he gets them due to their own lack of skills or bad choices. In solo queue it's a crap shoot. Do you try to snowball your Riven top or is she awful and going to toss away the lead you give her on foolish tower dives? Do you camp bot to help out your vayne in the hopes that she can carry you come late, or gank for the early-game powerhouse who's gonna fall off if the game goes long? You have to make all these calls blind unless you know the players you're with, and you can never tell which is the right call.
That said... it can happen. Back in the ancient times when the game was fun... I played almost nothing but jungle and support all season and climbed outta bronze thanks to 
and 
. Stick with it and you can make it happen. Or just get a premade and get carried out like everyone else does. Boosting is legal now.
FioraWillCarry1 votesOr just get a premade and get carried out like everyone else does. Boosting is legal now.
Overrated. Tried that. Premades most often turn out to be no better than randoms. I've had more success soloing to be perfectly frank.
rtbf2216514121 votesOr just get a premade and get carried out like everyone else does. Boosting is legal now.
Overrated. Tried that. Premades most often turn out to be no better than randoms. I've had more success soloing to be perfectly frank.
Opposite experience. Although, I wouldn't call it boosting if these people are as new or newer than you and you can still win games.
FioraWillCarry1 votesOpposite experience. Although, I wouldn't call it boosting if these people are as new or newer than you and you can still win games.
Still unreliable. Firstly, it assumes that higher ranking players are willing to play with you against their inferiors. Then it would require you to be online the same time as them. Basically, you're putting yourself in a position where you cannot play ranked games without them. No thanks. I'd rather try to learn how it is they are able to carry and do it myself. It's easier in the long run since you can play when you want and how often you want.
Using premades to climb is actually the worst way to do it. I only premade to have fun with friends, I'll never seriously consider it a legit option to climb. It's puts you in a huge position of dependency on other players.
DeltaRaven1 votesI'm going to be completely honest here and say that you can definitely make it out, but it takes time. Not every game will go your way but if you consistently make good decisions and play good you will eventually climb out of bronze. I've found that learning to create pressure around the map is the easiest way to win games regardless of how they are going, so keep that in mind and try to keep a focus on objectives.
FioraWillCarry1 votesI made it to B2 once after suffering at the depths of B5 for quite a while. What I learned that got me to B2 the first time was this: You are going to lose every game you don't carry. It's the truth. Bronze is full of retards. You will very very rarely get carried. You MUST learn how to carry to climb out. Good CSing and pressure I find are really good for winning games with retarded team mates.
Frnak1 votesAnti-engage champs with tons of AoE is how I got into Plat.
Every season I start off in Silver and I climb up into gold and quit. Except this season. Felt like pushing it. Been pretty lax since.
Malz was my go to guy until the huge nerfbat "rework" (kill his minions guys. He's lost literally hundreds of damage off of his base values+ratios).
Vel'Koz has been pretty yummy so far. Veigar is iffy but AoE stun at bronze might be hilarious. W is 1:1 AP ratio.
Edit: Essentially what I'm saying is get someone who can disrupt an engage and aoe blast the shit out of them. Finish off anyone who's a real threat and enjoy free win.
SwiftKitten881 votesi'm in silver, two games ago my top lane let the nasus get 500 stacks by 25 min, its not really any better here...
Jabberwöcky1 votes
For the most part, these champs kits are easy to learn, for the most part, getting good with them is a different story, but all of them are noob stompers. Get good with one of these and you can solo carry out of bronze.
I myself played last season from bronze 4 playing teemo top and got to silver 3 then played leona support to gold 5 and then went to gold 2 with nocturne jungle.
This season, Nocturne and Malphite have been my go to junglers and im back at gold 4 with less than half the games from previous season.
