can we remove unnecessary power from jinx kit?

Critmaster Garen··1 votes·809 views

why does her w grant vision on champions hit? give me a legit reason why this is a thing. is the 70% slow and the high damage not enough? it doesnt even make thematic sense. why does a tazer hit grant vision on the enemy when not even Lux binding does?

Jinx is like release LeeSin and Irelia all over again, just in form of a marksman this time.

she has something of everything in her kit. she has 5 abilities and a powerful passive without her power budget actually being split up between them. on top of that, she has power in certain places just tacked on without rime or reason. like her w and traps granting a vision debuff on the enemy when caught.

theyre stong enough as kiting tools on their own. for the ability to switch between Caitlyn range auto attacks with aoe crits and massive single target as steroid on demand on her q, it feels like she should give something up in other places, and the rest of her abilities should be a bit weaker.

yet, theyre all individually as strong as if she only had 4 abilities in her kit.

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Darth Pixy Misa1 votes

Jinx has been nerfed multiple times in the past, she's fine.

Critmaster Garen2 votes

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Jinx has been nerfed multiple times in the past, she's fine.

have you ever heared about the meme "better nerf ielia"?

shes probably the most nerfed champion in the history of this game. they kept nerfing her over and over again, but her kit was just so damn versatile and strong, that she remained strong even after countless nerfs.

just because jinx has been nerfed a few times, doesnt mean shes balanced now.

and dont act like she hasnt seen compensation buffs or hasnt been straight up buffed with a recent patch either. even though she wasnt anywhere near weak or deserved it.

her kit is overloaded with random shit that has no business being there.

ShaolinToilet1 votes

Does garen have any legendary skins

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Does garen have any legendary skins

guess thats why they dont think he derves to be buffed.

MohawkBird1 votes

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Critmaster Garen1 votes

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She's is definitely over tuned right now.

its not just the fact that shes overtuned in numbers, but that her kit outperforms most other marksmen. shes never not a safe or strong pick, because she has something of everything,

you can make comparisons to other marksmen and probably find some abilities that are better than one of hers when just compared individually.

but the same goes for release lee sin and irelia. you will find fighters who probably have better cc than irelias e. you will fighters who deal more burst damage than lee sin on his ult. but its when these kits come together that theyre outperforming everyone else, when their numbers are just high enough to be relevant.

thats why riot shaved off power from lee sins kit multiple times. like the resistances he originally had on his w shield, and the attack speed slow on his e.

jinx needs the same treatment imo.

removing the vision debuff on her w is a good place to start. her playstile doesnt revolve around it, and her theme doesnt suddenly break down and makes her a different champion when she doesnt have it.

MohawkBird1 votes

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Jefftiffy1 votes

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That vision on her W plays little to know role in her strength. Her real strength lies in AoE, 110% damage crits that also work on Runaan's Hurricane. That's her true problem. That coupled with her easy ability to snowball because of her ult and passive make her outperform a ton of ADCs in this meta.

It didn't used to be her problem. The ADC rework made item 3085 way too good with ADC's. They always nerf Jinx in any way they can because they just won'tremove her critting everyone hit by the rocket instead of just the initial target. Seriously you do that and Jinx is much easier to balance.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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It didn't used to be her problem. The ADC rework made item 3085 way too good with ADC's. They always nerf Jinx in any way they can because they just won'tremove her critting everyone hit by the rocket instead of just the initial target. Seriously you do that and Jinx is much easier to balance.

it always used to be her problem, lol. she wasnt any less of a pain in the ass before the marksman rework and was op for the longest time.

Electrya1 votes

Jinx is just going to get nerfed over and over again most likely, taking the Jhin or Kalista/Kindred nerf. Jhin got nerfed just because of the Korean build made him super over powered, his kit was fine. Kalista and Kindred got nerfs that just brought them down so low and now are rarely played. Jinx kit is fine, hasn't be touched for awhile before her E nerf and her Q buff. Her Q buff enabled her primary damage dealer, Q Fish Bones, to do more but scale with less A S. ( To help her do more mid game/laning phase) The downsides to her is that if shut down earlier, she has a hard time coming back up. But if she gets a kill or two in laning phase, she has the most ever potential to snowball. Just be weary of Jinx's extreme power, and shut her down immediately. I am a Jinx main, and I find that some of her counters are Leblanc LeeSin Blitzcrank Zed Caitlyn This is just my personal opinion, as I have trouble with them.

Rebonack1 votes

Her W grants vision to make it as clear as possible that she's Kog, except better in every way.

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