The current circle jerk is Tristana apparently.

Terozu·Feb 5, 2018·1 votes·271 views

Nothings really changed about her, so yeah, a pretty good example of pure circle jerkin'.

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Chembaron YamadaFeb 5, 20181 votes

It's kinda justified in my opinion.

I am really not someone complaining about marksman, I am fine with that subclass. But Tristana always was odd for me.

She is a hyper carry, which are usually pretty vulnerable. If I manage to jump on Twitch or Jinx, they are dead. They can't defend themselves well. Tristana however has way too much safety in her kit for being a hyper carry. If I manage to jump on her, she is just like "LUL, no, you don't".

extremely long range
AoE knockback
fairly long ranged dash with 2 reset mechanics

TerozuFeb 5, 20182 votes

I don't really care. Nothing's changed about her but everyone is suddenly like "she's op". Kat has a blink that gets reset two different ways, complain about her, she's had a high win rate for forever. Jinx with Q has a higher range. Kindred played properly has a higher range. Flat out nothing's changed and she's not that strong but for the next couple weeks noone's gonna shyt up about how she's broken, been broken, and how Riot is a bad company for letting her stay broken, and anyone who poonts out that no, she really isn't is gonna get flamed and down-voted and called a Riot fanboy, even though again, nothing's changed. Sorry but I prefer actual substance to discussion on the boards.

Chembaron YamadaFeb 5, 20181 votes

Which I provided, didn't I? I pointed out that the combination of range, resetable dash and AoE knock up for peel is too much safety for a hyper carry in my opinion.

But you don't discuss that with me, the only argument you brought up is that she hasn't changed recently.

And yes, Kat has a resetable blink. Yes, Jinx and Kindred might have higher range.

But they all just have 1 of those. Kat doesn't have a strong selfpeel via knockback and she is melee. Jinx and Kindred don't have the knockback either, Jinx doesn't have multiple dashes.

It's the combination of all 3 in the same kit that is bothering me. She has too many safety tools for a hyper carry.

TerozuFeb 5, 20181 votes

Tristana's kit has been the same for forever. It can't suddenly be overloaded. Kalista gets a dash with every auto and Q has an aoe knock up, can stack her e and has constant vision. Ashe can permaslow you with autos deal aoe damage at a wider range than the screen, and has the longest stun in the game, and it's also aoe. Kog'Maw has %health damage damage, massive range, can slow you and keep vision at massive range and even if you kill him he can still blow you up. Xayah can snare you over and over and it deals thousands of damage, and dont tell me you can just dodge it because if we're talking peel which we are, her e deals damage in a small aoe around her, so melees will always be caught. Katarina can reset her e three times on ome person, and deal an instant 1200 damage twice in addition to being able to follow extremely well while being virtually untouchable by skill shots. Garen has an E that can deal over 4,000 damage in an aoe, a silence, can remove slows can completely ignore cc when built right and can execute you on top of only taking half damage with bonus armor on top of that.

You think twitch and Jinx cant defend themselves? They are AOE masters, you cant 1v1 them unless it was perfectly set up, they both have high enough attack speed that with just one lifesteal item they can can keep themselves full health off of aoe damage alone. Jinx gets a massive movement speed buff on every kill for disengage or engage the exact same as trists dash, while trist has some delayed aoe Jinx has constant aoe, trost has a high cooldown knock back with small aoe, jinx has low cooldown snares and a slow, and a global execute.

Tristana is also less durable then them, and her dash has a wind up time in which to stop her. One of her resets on it takes like 8 seconds to happen during which she is utterly at risk to be killed. Her self peel consosts of an ultimate ability knock back which, while aorle, is very hard to actually land it on multiple people since its a tiny aoe.

Flat out she's no more overloaded than any other adc in the game, she hasn't been changed and she doesn't need to be changed, she's in a balanced state that this circle jerk might actually fuck up. I remember the times Trustana was broken. Now is not that time, she shouldn't get nerfed yet people are demanding it for no actual reasons. "Over loaded kit" is utter bs in modern LoL. Every champ has an "overloaded" kit.

But people are going to keep bringing it up as if it's some valid point, even though until just recently her kit was apparently fine. How the hell did she go from fine to overloaded kit without being changed? So what if she has self peel, she's the safe adc, it's what she is designed to be.

And im not saying you werent trying to provide substance, you clearly were, but of your complaint is that her kit is overloaded wake up and smell the new champs and reworks, that is standard LoL fare now and since its normal, and your only complaint is that she's the same as everyone else, then despite your efforts it's not an argument with any substance. And yet it is the only thing anyone is going to bring up.

Also marksman isnt a subclass its just a class.