No one likes Devourer

JoroA·Sep 27, 2015·46 votes·1,856 views

Please Riot can you not see that no one likes it and it is not really needed (most of the junglers can use warrior) and those who need it can be buffed.

Please see reason Riot.

45 Comments

XonraSep 27, 201514 votes

Only people that like it are the ones that abuse it (last person I saw defending it had a match history with nothing but MasterYi and one XinZhao game. That person funny enough hasn't played any games since it has been disabled lol

SEKAISep 27, 201515 votes

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Only people that like it are the ones that abuse it (last person I saw defending it had a match history with nothing but and one game. That person funny enough hasn't played any games since it has been disabled lol

Devourer isn't a problem, they simply need to control it better.

An AS centric jungle item is definitely a must in this game, as long as they are like most items, properly monitored.

XonraSep 27, 20153 votes

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Devour isn't a problem, they simply need to control it better.

An AS centric jungle item is definitely a must in this game, as long as they are like most items, properly monitored.

The problem with it is they have no concept of balance, and made it so strong that warrior is nearly pointless is contrast. I mean I give them credit for not deleting warrior and trying to replace it with this. Won't go on my Runeglaive shouldn't have replaced Magus rant again lol

Crowe StalkerSep 27, 20152 votes

Maybe if Riot stopped letting people free-farm it and made the item work like Conservation stats like the old Spirit items used to do back in Season 4 we could actually act like it is the 'Late Game' item they want it to be. Instead they let it be free farmed, which encourages AFK jungling instead of killing a few camps, ganking, killing a few camps.

RetillinSep 27, 20151 votes

Well if it's been a problem this long then it might not be properly monitored. And if this is the case, then Devourer is the problem because it is being left as it is.

SEKAISep 27, 201511 votes

"Please, yar all just inferior!" - MasterYi item 3710 item 3086

AkabaneKunSep 27, 20156 votes

No one liked flare, no one will like the next stacking item either, but they will keep trying it anyway.

RetillinSep 27, 20155 votes

This is the main issue. You would think that Riot would stop trying to force something to work when it just hasn't worked. If you keep trying to make "A" work, and it doesn't, then maybe the theory of "A" is wrong instead of a slight number tweak.

Android CowboySep 27, 20156 votes

Let's all calm down, I like devourer AND I gank early and often.... don't let a bunch of tunnel-vision devourer absentee junglers give us all a bad reputation, please. I'm carrying myself with mostly devourer jungling, but I've adapted to its disabling and continue to be successful. Hell, you guys should WANT them to keep devourer around because it will help sort out the "bad" junglers. Gnar

SaiannaSep 27, 20153 votes

that "bunch of tunnel-vision devourer absentee junglers" you speak of is about 95% of all devourer users...

ChargeItDownMidSep 27, 20154 votes

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Archon XSep 27, 20155 votes

noone likes it because troll junglers are off farming for sated and ignoring lanes while enemy jungler who has a different enchantment camps freely.

XonraSep 27, 20152 votes

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noone likes it because troll junglers are off farming for sated and ignoring lanes while enemy jungler who has a different enchantment camps freely.

I'd say that is probably 60% of it, yes. Maybe even 70% (more like 90% for me,cause nothing like seeing the enemy jungler 4 times, while your jungler won't even come out of the jungle to stop from farming).

The Yetii RiderSep 27, 20154 votes

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noone likes it because troll junglers are off farming for sated and ignoring lanes while enemy jungler who has a different enchantment camps freely.

If by 'no one' you mean laners. Junglers rather enjoy the opportunity to get guaranteed power from farming rather than needing to rely on their laners to position properly, respond to pings, hit their skill shots and not die when we gank.

Slamurai JackSep 28, 20151 votes

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If by 'no one' you mean laners. Junglers rather enjoy the opportunity to get guaranteed power from farming rather than needing to rely on their laners to position properly, respond to pings, hit their skill shots and not die when we gank.

And that's why I don't play an early game pressure jungler unless I absolutely have to. Relying on idiot teammates to actually set up ganks and make use of your strong early game before you fall off is just too unreliable. I'd rather just play Shyvana and focus on farming, and then gank enemies if my teammates really set it up. Some laners set you up so well that you can gank with WW at lvl 2. Others are literally impossible to gank for no matter what champion you are.

XonraSep 27, 20156 votes

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No one likes it because the last nerf made it too weak. It is 100% guaranteed to be the least used jungle enchantment at worlds because of how much it is outclassed at the moment. It needs the 60 damage back or a lower requirement for sated.

The only reason it won't be used at worlds is because that is a completely different playstyle than solo queue in almost 100% of scenarios. You can't really get away with the "meteos style" of heavy heavy farming anymore, and you have to have early and often pressure from the jungle.

Devourer would be pointless in pro games because of that fact, unless the jungler with it had perfect objectives (dragon/baron/scuttle, etc) control. It is too much of a high risk low reward for pro play compared to no risk and high reward for just staying the jungle and farming in solo queue.

PonderousSealionSep 28, 20154 votes

Diamond 4 Master Yi main here. Devourer isn't as op as you all make it out to be, and it often shoehorns the person building it's early game into farming, FORCING them to take scuttle and early dragon or fall behind, and doesn't offer nearly the early power spike of the other items. It could do with some tuning down, but overall the idea of capping the attack speed was a stroke of genius to prevent it from infinitely snowballing and scaling. I've been playing Warrior Yi and it's worked fine, so I'm not "just abusing devourer", and I've played Yi for over 2 season now and understand the champion better than anyone complaining about him.

You guys need to take a chill pill.

SlampieceHawkeSep 28, 20151 votes

Agreed. I never had an overbearing win rate as devourer shyv for those same reasons as your master yi. During this time period of devourer being disabled, I've come to find that cinderhulk shyv is just as good... if not a better and more reliable option. Especially w/ a warmogs.

MrWasjigSep 28, 20151 votes

It's still an awful item regardless. Sure they've toned it down now and it's no longer "Take a Devourer jungle or lose". But it's still a hated item, like Feral Flare.

MrDrBuddSep 27, 20153 votes

I like Devourer

Blade of JusticSep 27, 20151 votes

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I like Devourer

Vicarious117Sep 27, 20152 votes

OP, there are some people who really like devourer!

They're the kind of people who main Yi or Shyv and don't understand early game jungling and don't know how to apply pressure in any form, but then can just farm while their team suffers then come out after getting sated and 1v2 fed enemy carries "cause balance." So the devourer gives them a chance to carry without even being half decent at jungling.

Those people do like devourer, and don't you forget it!

PartholonianSep 27, 20154 votes

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They're the kind of people who main Yi or Shyv and don't understand early game jungling and don't know how to apply pressure in any form, but then can just farm while their team suffers then come out after getting sated and 1v2 fed enemy carries "cause balance." So the devourer gives them a chance to carry without even being half decent at jungling.

No, they're the people who think they can do that, and then get destroyed when they try. I love jungling against a hard farming Yi -- pick a tank with hard CC, like Sej, ult him in the face (when your team is in position to follow up) and he explodes. Even if you haven't also snowballed your lanes while he is farming his ass off, this is pretty much a free win unless he flanks you or you mistime your ult.

On the other hand a Yi who does gank can be pretty frustrating to jungle against if your teammates actually feed him. But that can happen to any jungler regardless of item.

PykelSep 27, 20152 votes

counter jungle its easy. whenever i face someone like yi xin etc. i sit in their jungle all game so they cant stack. people let these junglers get sated fast then qq when they are getting destroyed cuz they dont have any items yet and the other jungler is sated.

SlampieceHawkeSep 28, 20151 votes

And I want you to come into my jangle when I'm running exhaust shyv... but I agree with you. Devourer isn't overbearing at all. Not when there are champs like vayne running around.

KrashinoSep 27, 20151 votes

I like Devourer, you can do some creative things with it. Sated Vi with BotRK is fun.

IcyPepperSep 27, 20151 votes

I'm sorry, but "on-hit proc champion with BotRK" isn't very creative. It's expected.

Now if you did on-hit Soraka jungle or something like that, then it would be creative :V

Duke AnaxSep 27, 20151 votes

I usually jungle Sorka with Runeglaive, but now I got to try this.

Android CowboySep 27, 20151 votes

Don't you see, though, what I'm saying about sorting out the "bad" junglers? Call me one of the 5% that doesn't AFK farm w/ devourer. This is a n00b jungler trap, lol. Let them go get devourer and let them fall flat on their faces, that is on THEM. The best lessons in life are learned the hard way. When devourer was enabled and I didn't get jungle in champ select, I'd always warn my jungle not to be AFK famring or I'd be coming into the jungle to tax THEM for ignoring the lanes. Gnar

SlampieceHawkeSep 28, 20151 votes

Keep in mind that some jangle champs who can use devourer were already just afk farming jg until at least level 6... like Shyvana Warwick .

I'm not aware of what your perception of afk farming is though... When I'm devourer shyv I still show up for counter ganks before lv 6. After lv 6 I will gank lanes when the enemy is over extended w/o a full sated.

ZephyrDrakeSep 27, 20151 votes

so many things people don't like... if we took out every single little thing that people didn't like then the game would be empty and boring as fuck

Daedalus871Sep 27, 20151 votes

TBH, I like AS over AD/AP/Health on pretty much any champion that could go either way.

Aatrox Irelia Jax Kayle MasterYi Nocturne Olaf Poppy Trundle Tryndamere Udyr Volibear (Sorta) Warwick XinZhao

Now Devourer may be a broken item and possibly should be removed from the game, but I would like to see an AS speed item created to replace it.

DownfallSep 27, 20151 votes

I like devourer

Silents429Sep 27, 20151 votes

I liked it, needed tuning, but the people who aren't complaining about it (majority) aren't going to come here anyway.

WyrmbladeSep 27, 20151 votes

I like devourer because it makes Aatrox viable.

GreymooreSep 27, 20151 votes

I would be happy if Riot just made it so that devourer only increased the damage of on hit effects instead of doubling everything.

Yordle XayahSep 27, 20151 votes

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140301100532/leagueoflegends/images/thumb/7/74/Feral_Flare_item.png/32px-Feral_Flare_item.png Oh oh... you think Devour is bad? Have you forgotten me so quickly?

Learning momentSep 27, 20151 votes

i like devourer.

Lintu PuckSep 27, 20151 votes

I have a friend that plays Jungle Nocturne, and wants his attack speed back :P He can't get what he used to even with Bork, Wits End, and another item that I don't remember.

WookieJesuzSep 28, 20151 votes

What part of your post is "reason"...... Tell me why you hate devourer.

ArchaceSep 28, 20151 votes

The only problem with Devourer in my opinion (other than it needs a bit of nerf) is the people who focus solely on stacking it before all else.

"Bot lane needs a gank, we're getting stomped down here."

"Sorry, you have to wait until 20 minutes in so I can be fully stacked."

Aych PiiSep 28, 20151 votes

Yeah, it sucks when that happens. There are always going to be dumb junglers, though, that's just a constant of life. At least they're staying away from your lane instead of soaking exp, no doubt failing all their ganks, and possibly feeding your lane even more.

Aych PiiSep 28, 20151 votes

No, you don't like Devourer. You can't really make an argument that "nobody" likes it. Clearly at least 1/5 people are pretty big fans of the item or there wouldn't even be anything to complain about.