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Riot please consider not hosting on NA again

JoroA··16 votes·1,388 views

This was the most embarrassing WORLDS i have ever seen and i am not even from NA. When all those great teams were in front of the crowd in groups, the crowd completley disrespected all teams and cheered only TSM. And in during any NA region games that are not TSM, they kept cheering USA, like barbarians. But what happened in SSG vs C9 was the worst of all. They BOOO'd a team that worked very hard and Ambition that has been such a hard working player since the early days in LoL to be disrespected in such a manner... Shame on NA. I hope it never hosts again.

PS: On the regional finals TSM fans disrespected C9 the same way... wich even furder shows how simple minded and disrespectful NA crowd can be.

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DestructoDave3 votes

You do know that the French crowd boo'd TSM when worlds was there right? Do I need to post a vid or can you find it yourself?

So, this double standard is a bit much.

Edit:

Here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jajrHTi5ZJY

JoroA1 votes

This is true, but that is a childish mentality. HE DID IT FIRST does not excuse being rude and disrespectfull to other teams and atleast it is noware NEAR as bad as what happened this worlds with NA.

LXII4 votes

"He did it first does not excuse..." yet you didn't bitch when your region was the one in the hot seat. "chanting USA like barbarians" pretty sure we can write you off as an American hater at this point.

Fransiee2 votes

assuming is not an argument. he agrees that booing an NA team in EU is just as bad as booing a Korean team in NA.

but yea, it's not american related.

LXII1 votes

His exact words were "noware NEAR as bad".. not sure how you got that he agrees it's just as bad. lol

Fransiee1 votes

Yea read it wrong. But apperently you het toxicated if ypu do that on the NA boards. Forgot what kibd of pretentious garbage you are here.

SuperLuigiLXIV2 votes

Actually, if you read that post, he explicitly says, and I quote, "atleast it is noware NEAR as bad as what happened this worlds with NA."

Despite being the same thing.

So, no, he did NOT agree that it was just as bad.

Fransiee1 votes

Yea you are right.

I also rewatched the video and this guy is right as well, it's not nearly as bad. And you either agree with that or are a NA fanboy who lost grip on reality. Your pick

SuperLuigiLXIV1 votes

So i heard I lost interest in anything you had to say when you decided something was a zero-sum proposition where if I didn't agree with you I was simply wrong.

Fransiee1 votes

They are called facts. It's when something is undebatable. Or are you so childish that we must do a count for the amount of people booing and a decibel meter calcultating which occasion was worse? Or are you growing up and just admit it? Only a fool doesn't believe the evidence in front of his eyes

SuperLuigiLXIV1 votes

Adorable.

Fransiee1 votes

lol, that's one creative thing to say when all there was to say is accept defeat. Mature once again lol. I love it when I make a point and someone proceeds to proof me right

SuperLuigiLXIV1 votes

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lol, that's one creative thing to say when all there was to say is accept defeat. Mature once again lol. I love it when I make a point and someone proceeds to proof me right

Yeah, sure, we'll pretend that's the correct interpretation. Whatever works for you, buddy <3

Fransiee1 votes

Still answering. Why is it so important for you to win a useless argument LMAO

SuperLuigiLXIV1 votes

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Still answering. Why is it so important for you to win a useless argument LMAO

Your responses and your blind belief that because we're disagreeing, I must be wrong, amuse me to no end. <3

And if it's so useless, why are YOU still going? xD

Randomonium2 votes

I agree the Chicago fans were out of line but you're being pretty hypocritical saying NA shouldn't get to host worlds again but EU is fine even though they acted the same way.

LXII3 votes

This is nothing new, eSPORTS fans are just like regular SPORTS fans. If you're not the home team you're getting boo'd.

JoroA1 votes

Never have i seen such disrespect in Asia's WORLDS. In EU occasionally, but noware NEAR as bad as what happened this year...

DestructoDave5 votes

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Never have i seen such disrespect in Asia's WORLDS. In EU occasionally, but noware NEAR as bad as what happened this year...

Well, considering the Chinese basically emptied the stadium at MSI when a chinese team wasn't on stage seemed pretty disrespectful to me. To each his own. People in there playing in front of 20 people.

So tell me, how is that not disrespectful?

Fransiee2 votes

neither is good

LXII1 votes

One team got boo'd when they were against the home team. Cry more dude. Later today when neither team is American I'm willing to bet it doesn't go down like that.

Fransiee1 votes

nah that's not the way to go, tams that furiously hate eachother are the exception. but you can't possibly have sympathy. I find all the critics a bit overexeggerated, I mean in the end those fans only gave themselves a bad reputation. but it was nothing much.

besides, at other events in the US it always went peacefully

Elite4Runner2 votes

As an American, I completely agree. That behavior was not flattering.

Unfortunately, a lot of things happening in America recently are not flattering.

Fransiee1 votes

we probably should just put this as a one time accident. In the other events everything went well.

the only thing I didn't fancy so much is commentaters screaming "oooh noooo" when samsung did something right.

AgeOfTheMage2 votes

Yeah, I'm na, I don't even watch Esports, but being disrespectful in big events like that, it's terrible!

Fransiee2 votes

Didn't like the booing, but saying not the host at NA is a bit overexegerating.

KazaLyn Shao1 votes

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Didn't like the booing, but saying not the host at NA is a bit overexegerating.

Agreed, just never host in Chicago again.

Manwalrus1 votes

furder

I'll just leave this here

Leo10241 votes

i'm from na and i hate that everyone either likes tsm or whatever na team is left, how does na expect to beat korea? or even china for that matter? i hate na crowds tbh, skt, rox and albus are my 3 picks

Kotex1 votes

I really don't think its like that. People just want to have hope in the underdog, and the US/NA is the underdog. I don't have some "NA pride" as they call it, but its fun to cheer for my personal region and hope that region does good, but lets face it. NA will never be good enough to win worlds. Its at the point where people are merely jaded with the obvious outcome that the chinese and korean teams will always be truly better than every other region and NA simply doesn't have the ability to defy that right now if ever.

I mean This was C9's best year, this was TSM's best year and it STILL wasn't even close to being enough. I merely want to see another team from NA, EU, etc be able to actually challenge SKT, challenge SSG, challenge the regions that are at this point typical to breed excellence for more than a few lucky games with a few lucky punches ya know?

Sniper 02 votes

Until esports become more acceptable in the US we're not going to see an NA team beat out a Korean team. Esports is a supported profession in South Korea. In the US it is generally frowned upon to spend that much time on a hobby.... unless it's American football or basketball. Basically it doesn't fit with the American way... Which is unfortunate. We don't really support a hobby unless it's something the populace mindlessly enjoys.... Because running a ball back and forth on a court is apparently more enjoyable than anything else. "Ohh you game, that's a waste of time, you should spend more time advancing your career and not get any enjoyment out of your life whatsoever..." That's the sentiment I get from my family at least. "You should watch tv instead of playing video games."

Sure let me just subject myself to more overly biased media.... Anyways, enough of the tangent. We will only be able to compete with the Korean teams when we actually start to support players the way we do with other sports. It doesn't need to be to that extent.... lets face it... who the hell needs a 7 figure salary to live? My point is that when putting your all into esports becomes a sustainable way for players to survive, only then will we have teams that can actually perform well on the world stage. At the moment, South Korea seems to be one of the only countries that understands that esports are actually going to be huge in the future.

Other countries will probably follow suit with South Korea much much sooner than the U.S.

Granted America is behind the rest of the world in many aspects.

In response with OP. American culture accepts boo'ing as a reasonable response to something you don't like. I don't agree with it, and I don't boo unless something actually deserves it (Captain comb over cough cough).... Anyways, SSG didn't deserve it but the US is full of assholes who have no concept of sportsmanship. In fact, it is acceptable to be an asshole when you're salty. Which is why League's banning system seems radical to many people is because toxic behavior is kind of glanced over in our culture... Unfortunately.

EPIKON1 votes

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Until esports become more acceptable in the US we're not going to see an NA team beat out a Korean team. Esports is a supported profession in South Korea. In the US it is generally frowned upon to spend that much time on a hobby.... unless it's American football or basketball. Basically it doesn't fit with the American way... Which is unfortunate. We don't really support a hobby unless it's something the populace mindlessly enjoys.... Because running a ball back and forth on a court is apparently more enjoyable than anything else. "Ohh you game, that's a waste of time, you should spend more time advancing your career and not get any enjoyment out of your life whatsoever..." That's the sentiment I get from my family at least. "You should watch tv instead of playing video games."

Sure let me just subject myself to more overly biased media.... Anyways, enough of the tangent. We will only be able to compete with the Korean teams when we actually start to support players the way we do with other sports. It doesn't need to be to that extent.... lets face it... who the hell needs a 7 figure salary to live? My point is that when putting your all into esports becomes a sustainable way for players to survive, only then will we have teams that can actually perform well on the world stage. At the moment, South Korea seems to be one of the only countries that understands that esports are actually going to be huge in the future.

Other countries will probably follow suit with South Korea much much sooner than the U.S.

Granted America is behind the rest of the world in many aspects.

In response with OP. American culture accepts boo'ing as a reasonable response to something you don't like. I don't agree with it, and I don't boo unless something actually deserves it (Captain comb over cough cough).... Anyways, SSG didn't deserve it but the US is full of assholes who have no concept of sportsmanship. In fact, it is acceptable to be an asshole when you're salty. Which is why League's banning system seems radical to many people is because toxic behavior is kind of glanced over in our culture... Unfortunately.

You have no idea how eSports is portrayed in Korea.

They still have a law set out to shut down online games on those accounts of minors while the game is publicly portrayed as an addiction that needs to be treated like those with alcohol and drug addicts.

You think there's pressure from family and those around you to advance in your career in the states?

27.1% of all deaths of those in their teens in Korea are caused by suicides.

It gets higher in their 20's with 41.3% and 35.5% in 30's.

I am not questioning work ethic of pros from other regions, however, for pros from Korea the amount of time and personal sacrifice put on by those from other region are considered minimum effort at best.

Thus why pros who left Korea to other regions, not named Deft and a few others, become washed out the very next season.

I am only posting this because I don't think the Korean players are getting well deserved credit for their effort and sacrifices rather many on here are looking at financial investment and cultural part of the eSport to blame when none of that is true.

Financially, LPL > EU/NA LCS > LCK > LMS is the correct order. I understand both EU and NA LCS is starting to receive larger investments and I cannot possibly imagine LCK being able to compete with both LCS and LPL financially. Thus why, LCK wants to install transfer fee like soccer to compete financially against EU/NA LCS and LPL. LCK sees themselves as the Eredivisie of soccer and that should be enough to tell you how unstable the league is financially.

LCK as a product at the moment is purely the outcome of unbelievable effort and sacrifices made by those that care and love LoL and games alike and as a fan of both LCK and LoL, I hope not to see any more degrading posts about their efforts with false information.

HorusEye1 votes

At least respectable team clapping without any "fanboy cheering" is more than enough. But booeing the foreign teams is just stepping over the line.

TheDevice1 votes

I also agree with OP

Its completely embarrassing how NA fanboys act at these events. Cheering for your team is one thing.. but to BOO any other team for winning in fair standing is just disgusting.

I myself was hoping TSM made it all the way this year but I just cant stand their diehard fans. Douchebags.

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