What is counter play? Does it even exist???

Dethflash··1 votes·724 views

So with the release of camilleCamille , there is now another champion with zero counter play in some of her kit. Camille's second half of Q does true dmg, and can do crazy amounts of true dmg if you build a trinity force, and camilles W does max health % dmg, those two combined mean fighting Camille as a tank or assassin is pretty useless because you cant blow her up, and she can do tons of dmg right through your armor or MR. FioraFiora , has Max health% true dmg in her ult, and again you dont have any counterplay options but attempting to blow up Fiora before her max health% true dmg shreds you like paper. Vayne Vayne silver bolts do Max health% true dmg, and again there is really no counterplay but attempting to blow up vayne before she 3 shots you, and if vayne has ult well you are just out of luck then most likely. These 3 champions are very annoying to play against especially as any kind of tank because you just get shredded in a heart beat even though you have 6 tank items. True dmg is annoying, but has a little bit of counter play, but health. But max health % dmg and true dmg just means you build health and you get shredded by the max health% dmg, you build armor and true dmg just ignores it. There is literally zero counter play towards Max health % true dmg, all you can do is hope your team can kill the enemy champion doing the max health % true dmg before they shred your whole team in not even seconds. and if you just happen to be unlucky enough and face all 3 of these champions at once, well you might just want to dodge the game while you still can, because your tanks are going to be useless, building any tank items will be even more useless, and having any sort of fun is a big no no item 3070 Again im not angry at true dmg, because there is some counter play to it, im upset about max health% true dmg because you either have to be a god and dodge every ability and auto attack, or you are going to be shredded

6 Comments

Ralanr2 votes

Usually the counter to %health true damage is not in reducing the impact but in reducing how much cones in a second.

AKA, slowing their attack speed.

Shadòw2 votes

counterplay is staying afk in base

she can't kill you there

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

Ah, but she has killed OP's spirit then. Arguably worse.

Mecha MaIphite2 votes

There is some counterplay against max %hp true damage.

Vayne, you can decrease her attack speed and make her switch targets. It's not ideal "counterplay" but it's more effective than letting her AA a target 3 times for free. Fiora, hug a wall or use mobility if you have it to stop her from getting vitals. Again, not ideal when she uses ult. Garen, kite/peel him away from the villain. If the villain is a tank, then great, because now Garen can't get that damage against your carries. Camille doesn't have %hp true damage. Build like a regular tank; hp will mitigate the effect of true damage, resistances will mitigate the effects of %hp damage.

Dethflash1 votes

Thanks for the tips for some "counterplay". Camille has true dmg on her Q, which can use sheen proc to do like 600 true dmg (thats more than lvl 1 and lvl 2 cho ult), and her W outer cone does max health % dmg, so yea she doesnt have one ability that just shreds, she has everything she needs to shred anyone with her kit though. Fiora is not so much a problem, but when you fight against all 3 of these champions and youre a tank, you arent having any fun all game long hahaha

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Easy solution. Build full damage and kill them first.

Kappa.

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